US Government "Shutdown" begins as of 1201 Eastern

[Seamus Fermanagh]

The legacy of the last few shutdowns is clear. GOP always look worse than Dem. Deals always get made when they see who is losing public opinion support fastest.

All of my government's budget and funding and taxation efforts are errant nonsense. I honestly don't know why the rest of the world doesn't just laugh and call in our markers (okay, I sorta do, but sheesh).

Congress: America's only inherent "criminal class."

[a completely inoffensive name]

GOP took back the Senate after Cruz shutdown the government.

Shutdowns look bad for the party in control, not the ones causing it. Unless the Dems drop the ball on PR again.

[Montmorency]

I would suspect that the GOP, ideologically, stands more to gain in the long-term from government shutdowns than the Democrats.

Democrats are very skilled at flushing short-term victories and boosts down the toilet.


Most shockingly, the most lucid and introspective statement I've ever seen coming from the Trump twitter feed:

My sense is that people are far angrier at the President than they are at Congress re the shutdown—an interesting turn!

Spittakes, please. It's too compact to be staffer-authored I think.

EDIT: I WAS FOOLED

I WAS FOOLED

CHECK THE DATE

[spmetla]

I guess I shouldn't be surprised it came to a shut down. A natural result of of putting all legislative items into gigantic bills with intense negotiations over every fringe addition instead of over the core items that are then held hostage as a result. If they held debates on separate items such as immigration, DACA, border funding, and so on they might actually have real negotiations over policies instead of party line votes that try to impose their way on everything.
Having elections that are really just so that one party can try get the majority and then impose their will on the other leaves the rest of us in the country. It was a sign of things to come that ACA/Obamacare passed with essentially no Republican votes. Now the Republicans are trying to do the same but without the necessary super-majority.

I hope this is cleared up over the weekend and doesn't run on too long.

[Montmorency]

It was a sign of things to come that ACA/Obamacare passed with essentially no Republican votes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/20/o...democracy.html

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...liberal-tenets

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/18/demo...ommentary.html

Isn't this a clarion call for Democrats to stop trying to pass Republican policies, and get a genuine new platform?

[Hooahguy]

Now that Im in DC, I get to witness the full effect of this shutdown. Going to try to see some of the Smithsonians before they close on Monday.

[drone]

Enjoy the reduced rush hour traffic!

[Strike For The South]

And just like that, it's over.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

First time in my adult life that the GOP did not shoulder all the blame for a shutdown. Kinda weird.

[Montmorency]

First time in my adult life that the GOP did not shoulder all the blame for a shutdown. Kinda weird.

I hope this doesn't turn into a series of mini-shutdowns.

The GOP's unofficial slogan is: "Government doesn't work, elect us and we'll prove it." If they will deliberately throw the game when they have <appropriate sports metaphor // control the government> there must be a perception that the consequences are all to their advantage.

[CrossLOPER]

And just like that, it's over.

Just to waste your time.

[Devastatin Dave]

Shows how much government is really "needed".....unless you're some dependent dead beat who never grew up and have the same sense of responsibility as a jiggling turd of primordial ooze who has to have a master tell them everything they need to do or they die.

[Hooahguy]

There is another threat of shutdown on February 8th if a long term spending bill isnt passed. I kinda think that while the optics are all over the place with this very brief shutdown, the long game goes to the Democrats. While they didnt get their goal on DACA, they did get the Children’s Health Insurance Program funded for the next 6 years or so. And the GOP said they would address DACA in the next month so that basically means if nothing is agreed to on DACA by the 8th there will be another shutdown. What I do not seem to get is how the GOP can claim the Democrats are obstructing when the GOP controls Congress plus the White House.