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    I was shocked. USA Today is more trusted than CNN!
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    Surely it depends on what they think - I doubt in the UK those who read the Daily Mail trust the Guardian; I imagine in the USA being so much bigger and so much more polarised leads to more polarised results. I try to read from those publications I disagree with to get the views of those outside my "bubble".

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    I thought Yahoo was a search engine? And the Yahoo News section just showed articles from outside news sources.
    Wooooo!!!

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    I don't know America Today, but CNN is pretty bad..'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    I don't know America Today, but CNN is pretty bad..'
    They say that USA Today is somewhat like The Sun in the UK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    They say that USA Today is somewhat like The Sun in the UK.
    Dutch equivalent of the Sun is the biggest here, not that they can't be trusted but I don't like their style, I dislike screaming headlines. The 'quality newspapers' really aren't that though. It's ok to be biased that I don't mind, but don't pretend to be something you aren't, they are mostly lifestyle-magazines with good articles but for news you have better options

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    Well clutch my pearls!
    The government deliberately lied on immigration:

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/team-t...-terror-report

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    The gov't gets in the game of "fake news"
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    Of the top 7, 5 are foreign (4 English) and two are Public Radio/TV (British-Lite in style).

    In other words, we have this funny tendency to trust Journalism outlets that still report the malfing facts and clearly separate them from their opinion stuff.

    You think I have been deriding the US News Media and US journalists in general without any basis?

    You have little idea how good your news outlets are compared to ours.
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    US News is catered toward whatever audience already watches them. Each network caters to people that love and need their echo chamber to confirm whats wrong with the other. Watch MSNBC only and you'll be sure the Republicans are all evil, watch Fox News and you'll be sure that the Democrats are trying to pioneer the downfall of America. CNN leans left but not as blatantly as MSNBC.

    When we still had Al Jazeera America I'd switch to watching that when we'd be stuck on some stupid small story that was getting 24hr coverage despite being relatively unimportant (Prince, Kardashians, etc...).

    The evening news is pretty much the most comprehensive and trust worthy but unfortunately only watched by the elderly it seems. I regularly watch PBS Newshour and BBC, sometimes I'll watch NHK if PBS is airing it. I do switch between the 3 cable news networks during lunch though to see the differing coverage of the same story. On my phone I switch between reading the news from the following apps: PBS Newshour, BBC News, France 24, Deutsche Welle, ORF.

    I think one of the reasons British news is so trusted is probably because it doesn't fall into the trap of over covering one story. When CNN is giving their minute by minute coverage or count down of some event you can miss a hell of a lot of news that's only covered in the ticker scrolling the bottom of the screen. British news casts cover the whole world of events instead of our purely domestic focuses (Catalan thing was barely covered on cable news networks).

    The worry for me is that the two most extreme networks have the highest viewership rates despite being 'untrusted'
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    RATINGS
    Fox News and MSNBC Are No. 1 and No. 2 Most-Watched Cable Networks in August

    Americans continue to be enthralled by cable news, and it continues to show in the ratings department. Each of the big three cable news networks finished in the top 5 across basic cable across total day viewership (6 a.m. – 6 a.m.)

    During the month of August 2017, Fox News topped all of basic cable in total day viewers, per Nielsen data. This is the 14th straight month Fox News has accomplished this feat. Additionally, FNC was the most-watched basic cable network in prime time, notching a monthly total viewer victory in prime time six of the past eight months.

    Fox News also posted audience growth in August 2017 relative to its August 2016. The network was +6 percent in prime time viewers, and +7 percent in total day viewers from last year.

    With Adults 25-54, Fox News posted +25 percent growth in prime time, and +28 percent growth in total day.

    MSNBC continues to thrive ratings-wise in 2017. The network finished August 2017 No. 2 basic cable both in prime time and in total day viewers. The network posted +63 percent prime time viewer growth, +55 percent growth in the prime time demo, +54 percent growth in total day viewers, and +40 percent growth in the total day demo versus August 2016.

    CNN had a solid month in its own right, finishing in the top 10 in total viewers, both in prime time and in total day. The network posted +41 percent growth in total prime time viewers, +54 percent growth in the prime time A25-54 demo, +22 percent growth in total day viewers and +39 percent growth in the total day demo versus August 2016.

    Armed with a re-vamped lineup in the afternoon and early evenings, CNN’s sister network HLN held steady in total prime time viewers but posted +2 percent growth in total day viewers from Aug. 2016.

    Additionally, here are the five most-watched basic cable networks of August 2017:

    Top 5 Basic Cable Networks of August 2017 (Prime Time)
    Fox News (2,206,000)
    MSNBC (1,835,000)
    USA (1,499,000)
    HGTV (1,429,000)
    TBS (1,258,000)

    Top 5 Basic Cable Networks: August 2017 (Total Day)
    Fox News (1,345,000)
    Nickelodeon (1,165,000)
    MSNBC (1,002,000)
    CNN (832,000)
    Adult Swim (809,000)
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    Quote Originally Posted by spmetla View Post
    US News is catered toward whatever audience already watches them.
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    No, there are journalists that do seek truth and try to air it. That might however mean telling people things they don't want to hear which is why it's drowned out by other news. It's more profitable to cash in on peoples pre-existing bias. In the mean time people get to choose which truth is true to them. Even with the faults of our media I'm glad we don't have an official news outlet. I'd hate to see how President fake-news would use such a network to undermine our current flawed outlets.
    Having occasionally looked at Tass and People's Daily I'm quite content with free though flawed speech.
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    At least you know who is biased, the official news-outlet has the nickname 'state-channel'', for a reason. Confidence is still too high though

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    @all: Can televised/video format ever be the equal of the old written word?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spmetla View Post
    No, there are journalists that do seek truth and try to air it. That might however mean telling people things they don't want to hear which is why it's drowned out by other news. It's more profitable to cash in on peoples pre-existing bias. In the mean time people get to choose which truth is true to them. Even with the faults of our media I'm glad we don't have an official news outlet. I'd hate to see how President fake-news would use such a network to undermine our current flawed outlets.
    Having occasionally looked at Tass and People's Daily I'm quite content with free though flawed speech.
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    The worry for me is that the two most extreme networks have the highest viewership rates despite being 'untrusted'
    They're untrusted in polling because everyone has an opinion on them (market penetration).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    @all: Can televised/video format ever be the equal of the old written word?
    Printed media are definitely preferable. Because one can't sleep with a TV or a computer monitor covering your face.
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    A wimpful display.

    Here's the real deal, in all its North Korean glory: https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump...0461276665725/

    Compare the two "girls" to these two:



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    Was free speech a mistake?
    No, but nobody ever said freedom came without a price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    @all: Can televised/video format ever be the equal of the old written word?
    Can any of them ever beat the healthy anarchy that is the internet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Can any of them ever beat the healthy anarchy that is the internet?
    So the internet has neither word nor video and anarchy is healthy?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    @all: Can televised/video format ever be the equal of the old written word?
    No, that much has been quite clear.
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    I just read Emperor Trump's Twitter feed. Its the only information that turns out to be true in the end. The whole time I imagine a bunch of beta cucked Euro-weenies shaking and whimpering in a fetal position as the amount of brutal harsh truth incinerates their drug dilated pupils more than when they watch their women being brutalized by third world invaders. It makes my nipples perk up like a pair of mint cone ice creams flipped upside down and plunged on the forehead of some high school band nerd getting pummeled by an entire horde of steroid using jocks....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    No, but nobody ever said freedom came without a price.
    In this case, we should probably take price literally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave View Post
    beta cucked Euro-weenies
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    Don't taunt wolves from within glass houses; they'll right smash the sucker to get at your meat.

    Fight them abroad so you don't have to fight them at home.
    Better yet, facilitate them fighting each other - don't block them those that wish getting there, ensure they never leave.

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    Machi-award for Rory

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    TV news is dying. Press F to pay respects.
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    FFF


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    F for Fluff you very much. I don't need no bedtime-story moms
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    No, that much has been quite clear.
    I think it could, it just takes more effort on the part of the journalist.


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