Spartan Agoge making FM's stupid

**TWFanatic** · 11-14-2007, 21:26

Every single FM I've ever had undergo the Spartan Agoge has gotten the "Stunningly Incompetent" and "Unhappy People" trait on his first turn. This has to be a bug.

I hope I won't be cheating when I use give_trait to remove these traits.

**madmatg** · 11-14-2007, 21:45

i have had the same problems

**King Philip II** · 11-14-2007, 21:48

same here - could it be because they are not Sharp/Charismatic/Vigorous and not Spartiate?

**bovi** · 11-15-2007, 00:50

This is probably because of:

Code:

Trigger Governor_BadMatch_with_Type1_Settlement
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition IsGeneral
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and EndedInSettlement
          and Trait Type1Settlement > 0
          and Trait HatesType1 > 0
          and Trait SettlementBadMatch < 1

    Affects SettlementBadMatch  1  Chance  100
    Affects BadAdministrator  8  Chance  100
    Affects PeopleUnhappy  1  Chance  100

It's no big deal, they're not supposed to be governing anyway while they are undergoing the agoge, so this would just be another safety measure to make them not be the governor. You do have another governor there, right? I think Spartans won't hate gov1.

Don't worry, as soon as they come into another town with a government more suitable for them they will return to their normal competencies:

Code:

Trigger Governor_No_Longer_in_Hated_Type1_Settlement
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition IsGeneral
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and EndedInSettlement
          and Trait Type1Settlement < 1
          and Trait HatesType1 > 0
          and Trait SettlementBadMatch > 0

    Affects SettlementGoodMatch  1  Chance  100
    Affects GoodAdministrator  8  Chance  100
    Affects PeopleHappy  1  Chance  100

Possibly we should add similar triggers for when they are in the outdoors.

**TWFanatic** · 11-15-2007, 01:54

Originally Posted by bovi

This is probably because of:

Code:

Trigger Governor_BadMatch_with_Type1_Settlement
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition IsGeneral
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and EndedInSettlement
          and Trait Type1Settlement > 0
          and Trait HatesType1 > 0
          and Trait SettlementBadMatch < 1

    Affects SettlementBadMatch  1  Chance  100
    Affects BadAdministrator  8  Chance  100
    Affects PeopleUnhappy  1  Chance  100

It's no big deal, they're not supposed to be governing anyway while they are undergoing the agoge, so this would just be another safety measure to make them not be the governor. You do have another governor there, right? I think Spartans won't hate gov1.

Don't worry, as soon as they come into another town with a government more suitable for them they will return to their normal competencies:

Code:

Trigger Governor_No_Longer_in_Hated_Type1_Settlement
    WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

    Condition IsGeneral
          and CharacterIsLocal
          and EndedInSettlement
          and Trait Type1Settlement < 1
          and Trait HatesType1 > 0
          and Trait SettlementBadMatch > 0

    Affects SettlementGoodMatch  1  Chance  100
    Affects GoodAdministrator  8  Chance  100
    Affects PeopleHappy  1  Chance  100

Possibly we should add similar triggers for when they are in the outdoors.

OK that explains it. I noticed that the trait was removed after one of my X-Agoge Students entered another settlement. Thanks for the help.

**King Philip II** · 11-15-2007, 08:06

Thanks Bovi - that makes sense

**I Am Herenow** · 11-15-2007, 08:19

Then mabe students of the Agoge should get a "Sudying in the Agoge" or something trait which explains that the harsh physical regime/lack of sleep/whatever will render them temporarily incapable of any mental exertion?