What Factions would you like to see in Empire Total War

[Jack Lusted]

Confirmed factions so far in Empire:

Britain
America
Sweden
United Provinces(Netherlands)
Poland-Lithuania
Russia
Prussia
Venice
Spain
France
Ottoman Empire

And there will be around 50 factions in Empire.

[pevergreen]

Brilliant!

Posted to Summary thread.

[Rodion Romanovich]

Confirmed factions so far in Empire:

Britain
America
Sweden
United Provinces(Netherlands)
Poland-Lithuania
Russia
Prussia
Venice
Spain
France
Ottoman Empire

And there will be around 50 factions in Empire.

This sounds promising! Beer to CA!

[The Celt]

Here's my wishlist.(Just going to put up the 10 announced factions plus maybe 11 more.)

1.British Empire
2.Kingdom of France
3.Spanish Empire
4.Prussia
5.Austria(-Hungary?)
6.Poland-Lithuania
7.Russian Empire
8.Ottoman Empire
9.Republic Of Venice
10.United States of America
11.Kingdom of Portugal
12.Saxony
13.United Netherlands
14.Kingdom of Sweden
15.Iroquois Confederacy
16.Mughal Empire
17.Maharata Confederacy
18.Safavid Empire(Persia)
19.Kingdom of Mysore
20.Kingdom of Denmark
21.Afsharid Afghans(Nader Shah)
22.Moroccan Empire

Whew! Lots of big players there! If CA can include most of that list I'll be a happy camper!

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Confirmed factions so far in Empire:

Britain
America
Sweden
United Provinces(Netherlands)
Poland-Lithuania
Russia
Prussia
Venice
Spain
France
Ottoman Empire

And there will be around 50 factions in Empire.

Question to CA:

Is there any chance to see the Austrian Habsburg Monarchy in the game?

I don't know if you know much history, but I tell you that they were very important in this era. They were THE major opposing power to France, THE major central european power, THE major opponent of the Turks, THE major opponent of Brandenburg-Prussia. They fought three big wars against Prussia for Silesia. They fought the war for the Spanish succession. They fought against Napoleon. The list goes on and on and on. They were NOT an operetta state as you propably know them from the Sissi-Movies - Sissi is from the late 19th century. Hell they even had a navy!

Including of Poland I thoroughly consider as a joke of CA. What happened? Did the Kazcinski (honestly sp) brothers intervene? But that's more or less irrelevant to me as long as you please be not so foolish to exclude Austria. Really, I'd like to kiss your feet for making an 18th century:TW (Imperial Glory was a giant disappointment), but if you exclude the major continental player for obvious reasons like marketing and perhaps the feeling of "one german power is enough", than I will surely NOT buy your game.

[SaFe]

Question to CA:

Is there any chance to see the Austrian Habsburg Monarchy in the game?

I don't know if you know much history, but I tell you that they were very important in this era. They were THE major opposing power to France, THE major central european power, THE major opponent of the Turks, THE major opponent of Brandenburg-Prussia. They fought three big wars against Prussia for Silesia. They fought the war for the Spanish succession. They fought against Napoleon. The list goes on and on and on. They were NOT an operetta state as you propably know them from the Sissi-Movies - Sissi is from the late 19th century. Hell they even had a navy!

Including of Poland I thoroughly consider as a joke of CA. What happened? Did the Kazcinski (honestly sp) brothers intervene? But that's more or less irrelevant to me as long as you please be not so foolish to exclude Austria. Really, I'd like to kiss your feet for making an 18th century:TW (Imperial Glory was a giant disappointment), but if you exclude the major continental player for obvious reasons like marketing and perhaps the feeling of "one german power is enough", than I will surely NOT buy your game.

Well, naturally the Austrian Empire should be included as playable faction, but i think for marketing reasons the U.S. and Poland will get their position as one of the mysterious 10.
You know US is important as we have many potential american buyers and the polish members will start a crusade again, if their country is not included.
Perhaps a petition again?

As this seems to be working i want to include the absolute unimportant princedom of Baden, because this is my home. (sarcasm)

To be honest TotalWar should have nothing to do with nationalism or patriotism, because it is a game with the premise to be a historical one.
So, no U.S. at the start of the game and definately no Poland as playable faction.

[zerathule]

I hope the Polish Inquisition (No one ever expects it) wont kick Austria out of the 10 playable factions.
While i could disagree on Austria being the first european continental power (i'd put france at that place), definately they where a key player of that time.
Who'll fight the Ottomans ?
Who'll keep Prussia at bay ?
Who'll be between France and Russia ?

Besides, even if i hate Talleyrand for his treason, i'd love to make a what if senario : instead of France waring on Austria, i'd like to have France allied to austria during the napoleonic wars.

[Jack Lusted]

The full faction list has not been revealed yet, there will be more than the factions i mentioned earlier ingame.

[pevergreen]

An estimate on number of playable factions?

or

Will there be more than 10 playable factions at the start?

Is the game made in mind that you can modify all the factions to make them playable easily? (Akin to RTW)

[FrauGloer]

Apart from the obvious factions (UK, France, Russia, etc.), I'd like to see:
Italian States (Venice, Genoa)
Duchy/Kingdom of Wuerttemberg
Grand Duchy of Baden
Kingdom of Saxony
Kingdom of Bavaria
Swiss Confederation
Kingdom of Denmark/Norway
Barbary Pirates (possibly as emerging faction?)
several Native American tribes (Iroquois, Hurons, Shawnee)

[xsintergalactic]

Question to CA:

Is there any chance to see the Austrian Habsburg Monarchy in the game?

I don't know if you know much history, but I tell you that they were very important in this era. They were THE major opposing power to France, THE major central european power, THE major opponent of the Turks, THE major opponent of Brandenburg-Prussia. They fought three big wars against Prussia for Silesia. They fought the war for the Spanish succession. They fought against Napoleon. The list goes on and on and on. They were NOT an operetta state as you propably know them from the Sissi-Movies - Sissi is from the late 19th century. Hell they even had a navy!

Including of Poland I thoroughly consider as a joke of CA. What happened? Did the Kazcinski (honestly sp) brothers intervene? But that's more or less irrelevant to me as long as you please be not so foolish to exclude Austria. Really, I'd like to kiss your feet for making an 18th century:TW (Imperial Glory was a giant disappointment), but if you exclude the major continental player for obvious reasons like marketing and perhaps the feeling of "one german power is enough", than I will surely NOT buy your game.

Message for SaFe

http://www.euratlas.com/big/big1700.htm



Well, since you think putting Poland-Lithuania in the game is a joke, I suggest that you go and study some history... click on the link, Poland is this tiny light blue country that was the biggest European country at that time (excluding Ottoman Empire, and Tsardom of Muscovy - today's Russia).

History is not marketing my friend. If you think Poland-Lithuania was a minor player in European history, check out the Battle of Vienna of 1683 when Jan III Sobieski saved the Austrian from Ottoman Empire invasion. I must agree with you that Austria-Hungary should be in the game, as it was a major player at that time, Poland is not a substitution. For future please educate yourself before posting, I assure you there is no involvement from the Kaczynski brothers.

I couldn't stand that Sid Meier forgot about Poland in his newest expansion, I did respect him a lot before. I like that Creative Assembly's team really do their homework on history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vienna

Thanks,

[Vlad The Impaler]

I don't agree with the fact that Poland (Rzeczpospolita to be more specific) should be a major faction in the timespawn of this game . see maps from the left :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish-...n_Commonwealth

By the 18th century, the Commonwealth was facing many internal problems and was vulnerable to foreign influences. The destabilization of the political system brought it to the brink of anarchy. Attempts at reform, such as those made by the Four-Year Sejm of 1788–92, which culminated in the May 3rd Constitution of 1791, came too late, and the country was partitioned in three stages by the neighboring Russian Empire, Kingdom of Prussia, and the Habsburg Monarchy. By 1795 the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth had been completely erased from the map of Europe. Poland and Lithuania re-established their independence, as separate countries, only in 1918.

[SaFe]

Message for SaFe

http://www.euratlas.com/big/big1700.htm



Well, since you think putting Poland-Lithuania in the game is a joke, I suggest that you go and study some history... click on the link, Poland is this tiny light blue country that was the biggest European country at that time (excluding Ottoman Empire, and Tsardom of Muscovy - today's Russia).

History is not marketing my friend. If you think Poland-Lithuania was a minor player in European history, check out the Battle of Vienna of 1683 when Jan III Sobieski saved the Austrian from Ottoman Empire invasion. I must agree with you that Austria-Hungary should be in the game, as it was a major player at that time, Poland is not a substitution. For future please educate yourself before posting, I assure you there is no involvement from the Kaczynski brothers.

I couldn't stand that Sid Meier forgot about Poland in his newest expansion, I did respect him a lot before. I like that Creative Assembly's team really do their homework on history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vienna

Thanks,

The siege of vienna is out of time-frame - simple as that and Sobieski is probably dead by the start of the game.
I never said Poland should not be in the 50 faction slot, but it was a minor player in the 1700 - 1800.
The importance of a nation is not the land mass it posesses.
In the furture please do not imply others should educate themselves - this is a discussion and should not be on a personal level.
Also if you quote Centurio Nixalsverdrus you should adress him directly.
Thank you.

[Rodion Romanovich]

The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth would at least look odd as rebels, seeing as the entire large landmass - despite its smaller influence at this time - was formally controlled by a single leader. Whether to make it a playable faction or not it's another thing. IMO it would be a nice strategical challenge to try and fight the decline and somehow reestablish a strong Poland - I always enjoyed the difficult factions in previous TW games, West Rome in BI being one of the nicest examples. Difficult of course, considering the often destructive influence the nobility held, and considering the diplomatic problems caused by both previous wars, and being challenged by new, ambitious enemies, such as Prussia.

[derfinsterling]

In the current issue of German magazine GameStar, China and Japan were confirmed as not being in the game.
Japan, because it went through one of its isolationists bouts and China because "nothing much happened there during the era of E:TW".

Oh and yes, I'd love to have an Austrian faction playable ;-)

[Rodion Romanovich]

Ok, fair enough no China and Japan, but India confirmed I suppose? I hope the East Indies and some territories east of India will be on the map as well, because I don't really like it when the gameplay is affected by the map edge, i.e. you always have your back free if you conquer everything up to the "map edge" in the game. Please include supply losses and include the East Indies/Indonesia/Bangladesh area as provinces, but almost impossible to conquer from the rebel faction, so there's at least a theoretical threat from east of India, apart from those from the north and west caused by other factions, so defensive forces for this purpose are needed!

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Well, since you think putting Poland-Lithuania in the game is a joke, I suggest that you go and study some history... click on the link, Poland is this tiny light blue country that was the biggest European country at that time (excluding Ottoman Empire, and Tsardom of Muscovy - today's Russia).

History is not marketing my friend. If you think Poland-Lithuania was a minor player in European history, check out the Battle of Vienna of 1683 when Jan III Sobieski saved the Austrian from Ottoman Empire invasion. I must agree with you that Austria-Hungary should be in the game, as it was a major player at that time, Poland is not a substitution. For future please educate yourself before posting, I assure you there is no involvement from the Kaczynski brothers.

Errm, to whom is your post directed?

Well, in case it was adressed to me:

1. History is not marketing, but marketing is the main reason behind the decisions being made by CA of which factions putting in and which not. If CA wouldn't care about marketing, they'd 1) let Poland and the U.S. out of the game and 2) be bancrupt because of a severe lack of buyers.

2. I know about the battle of Vienna and I am glad it turned out as it did in history, thanks to the Polish King.

3. Regarding history, Jan Sobieski's saving of Vienna was something like Polands last heroic deed. The Polish-Lithuanian Confederacy was rotten from within, and as SaFe stated, territorial expansion is not the key factor in judging a country's importance in a timeframe.

4. We all should educate ourselves, but talking this way is rather offending.

5. I am not your friend if you think I should educate myself.

6. Glad to hear the Kaczynski brothers are not involved.