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    Dieter unrolls a copy of the Charter on his desk

    Lets see...

    I'm looking for the part of the Charter that says that the Kaiser automatically takes over as Chancellor when the current Chancellor can not perform his duties.

    Hmmm....

    I can't find that part.

    Can someone tell me what clause stipulates this?

    Anyone?


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    Arnold is still chancellor. If he wishes to have someone he trusts run day to day matters for a while, I see no issue with that.
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    Ok, can someone please point out the clause in the Charter that allows the Chancellor to choose a second.

    Nothing against the Kaiser, but I did not vote for him to be Chancellor. And since the Charter does not go over this possibility, it is obvious we need some sort of legal resolution.

    Or do we just ignore inconvenient laws?


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    Herrmann Steffen:

    Well, someone's got to keep this show running! I mean, we all saw what happened during the period where there was no central leadership. We all remember right? Treachery, massive loss of territories, massive loss of cash, three separate rebellions... death... uh...

    Anyway!!!

    I agree that this issue needs to be addressed at the next Diet Session, but doing it now would be a waste of time. By the time we drag everyone's butts in here to call for a session and propose resolution that will straighten this out, Uncle Arnold will have fully recovered from the plague and yelled at all of us for acting like little fairies.
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    Ok, can someone point out the clause that makes it legal for there to be "second" to Chancellor until the next Diet session?

    And I am still waiting on answers to my first two questions.

    So, now that makes 3.

    And it pains me to hear that following the law is a "waste of time."


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    Point out the clause that makes it illegal. This is also hardly the first time a steward has been appointed. With a lack of law either prohibiting or allowing, we'll follow tradition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FLYdude
    Point out the clause that makes it illegal. This is also hardly the first time a steward has been appointed. With a lack of law either prohibiting or allowing, we'll follow tradition.
    No, point out the specific point that makes the Kaiser's actions legal. Unless he is using his power of legal interpretation. In that case, since it involves him, we'll need the 4 Dukes to make a ruling. Or, we could just call an emergency session, and pass a CA that allows for this possibility.

    But ignoring this just doesn't seem to be an option.

    Also, please point out the part of the Charter that says we can just "follow tradition".


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    I am glad that you have mentioned stewardship, as, indeed, Duke Arnold does have a steward. His name is Karl Zirn, and he is currently administering the Duke's duties, well, all of them except the Chancellorship. The Kaiser, to my knowledge, is steward only of Imperial soldiers (under Fritz's breath; certainly not steward of his wife or his tongue), and that a recently claimed and questionably legal matter in itself.

    In any case if the Kaiser wished to be Chancellor he had only to run for the position openly, not scheme to take it. Surely a man of such commanding presence and authority would have won easily against a mere freehold Count such as myself.

    I wish Duke Arnold godspeed in growing healthy. The Reich needs him!

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