Armenian Votes or Not?

[LeftEyeNine]

Armenian votes, how many can there be?

Ah yes, seriously, any statistics regarding the population of Armenian originated US citizens ?

P.S. Thanks, BG.

[Fragony]

Ah yes, seriously,

Assuming you were mocking me here, even if there are a lot they are likely to be very centralised and only a force locally.

[LeftEyeNine]

Assuming you were mocking me here, even if there are a lot they are likely to be very centralised and only a force locally.

I wasn't.

When did I get this irrelevantly evilish aura ?

[Louis VI the Fat]

If I had to guess, I would say that some, oh, let's say, 385,488 Americans would indicate either full or partial Armenian ancestry at a census. Depending on definition, most estimates put the number of Americans of Armenian ancestry anywhere between half and two million.

Armenian-Americans date back to Jamestown. One Armenian made it there already in 1618. Where he adopted the amusing but commendably convenient name 'Martin the Armenian'.

I took a look at the US census site but armenian isnt an ethnicity choice on the census.

Like the universe or Turkish national pride, American obsession with race and ancestry is infinite:
Census

[Odin]

Like the universe or Turkish national pride, American obsession with race and ancestry is infinite:
Census

Well Louis has more time on his hands then I do, bravo. Not only that but it sets up a rare circumstance here at the backroom of the org, something so rare that very few posters are capable of doing it, so it must be done in bold and special font.

I was wrong

Now that we have that out of the way, LEN the link louis provides states 358k which is a very small % hence my prior posts position.

[LeftEyeNine]

So 358k of which has also a portion unable to vote seem insignificant to care for their votes.

Then only the other option remains ?

[Reverend Joe]

I believe the Allfather pretty much hit the nail on the head... it's a nonissue, sounds-good, everyone's behind it kinda thing. Plus I believe (not know, or think, just believe/hope) that Obama is actually trying to take a stance on issues that he feels are morally, ethically and logically correct.

[Geoffrey S]

Are American politicians really craving for "confirming the truth" or is a matter of acquiring whopping Armenian votes ?

So 358k of which has also a portion unable to vote seem insignificant to care for their votes.

Then only the other option remains ?

Now that has been shown that Armenians voters aren't a significant percentage of the US, it seemed discussion had shifted to the 'confirming the truth' side of things and what could be achieved by doing so.

My suggestion was that Obama sees it as time to confront a valuable ally over a potentially divisive issue with other allies (Armenia, and the EU).

But perhaps I'm falling into the same trap a lot of others do with Obama - projecting my own hopes onto what is essentially a political mirror?

[Louis VI the Fat]

I was wrong

Louis is always right about America.

I just knew there would be a meticulous record of the number of Armenians. It's what Americans do. I know America better than you do.

Oh alright. We simply searched simultanously, then posted almost at the same time. Sheer coincidence. I wasn't searching or posting to correct you. Then when I was done writing I saw your post and edited in a link.

[Odin]

Louis is always right about America.

I just knew there would be a meticulous record of the number of Armenians. It's what Americans do. I know America better than you do.

Oh alright. We simply searched simultanously, then posted almost at the same time. Sheer coincidence. I wasn't searching or posting to correct you. Then when I was done writing I saw your post and edited in a link.

For the record Louis I dont mind if you correct me when I am wrong. As to your knowledge about america I find you remarkable intune to some of the cultural subtleties for a foriegner. On top of that your usually pretty even handed when you dole out your judgements.

Sadly your often lazy and what I believe to be aloof, which often translates into arrogance. Your still alright in my book (for now) so correct away.

[Fragony]

I wasn't.

When did I get this irrelevantly evilish aura ?

Sorry my bad it looked like a 'yeah right' the way it was put down, and it is the backroom

Keep rocking mia muca

[Lemur]

FWIW, Chicago has a very large Armenian population, and Obama came up through the ranks in Chicago. So there may be a little local flavor to this issue as well.

True story: When I was a teen in Chicago, I asked for a Turkish Coffee in an Armenian restaurant. The fact that I was a kid helped to prevent them from kicking me to death.

[Odin]

Ah yes, seriously, any statistics regarding the population of Armenian originated US citizens ?

To be honest there isnt a lot of data on it. I took a look at the US census site but armenian isnt an ethnicity choice on the census.


So there is no way to say definatively what the stats are, this site states 500,000 to 2,000,000 but its clearly an estimate and perhaps bias.

Regarding your questions about Obama, this seems to be a real easy foriegn policy position. We recognized armenia in the early 90's and if I recall it wasnt at the compliments of the turkish. Essentially, its a pretty solid and well treaded "safe" foriegn policy subject for U.S. domestic consumption.

I think it has little to do with the international issues LEN, not that you were desiring to go down that road, but its a what we call in the states a slam dunk. domestically, its a non contreversial position that dosent wrankle to many international feathers, yet adhere's to the mainstream beliefs of the U.S. electorate.