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    Default does the AI use puppet/type 4 gov?

    Title says it all.


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    Thumbs up Re: does the AI use puppet/type 4 gov?

    If you destroy a government in your own settlement, with which you then gift it to an AI faction, the AI will be forced to build a new government eventually due to the fact that no government is automatically built for them in a situation like this. So far, in my own personal experience, the AI always goes for the cheapest government: type 4.

    But I don't think they get puppet rulers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Methuselah View Post
    If you destroy a government in your own settlement, with which you then gift it to an AI faction, the AI will be forced to build a new government eventually due to the fact that no government is automatically built for them in a situation like this. So far, in my own personal experience, the AI always goes for the cheapest government: type 4.

    But I don't think they get puppet rulers...
    I never gift any settlement to the AI I always just let it get taken, or I let it rebel. Besides the situation you just stated does the AI use type 4 government, because I really wish to take it out of the script to make the turns go by faster, as I never use type 4.


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    Default Re: does the AI use puppet/type 4 gov?

    No AI doesn't use them.
    You can safely remove this part of script but if you are using newest version of script dont expect to gain more then 2-4 seconds ( unless you have really slow computer ).

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    Thumbs up Re: does the AI use puppet/type 4 gov?

    Taking that out of the script will disable the spawning of Client Rulers, but it doesn't have much else to do with Type 4 gov'ts. You can still easily build Type 4's if you take that out of the script, the only difference is that no client rulers will spawn. However, family members will still receive the "interloper" if staying in a type 4 territory, which can be fixed by doing a small editing of some trait file, of which I forget.

    Besides this, you can still recruit generals, so it isn't all that bad...


    EDIT: Don't forget though, if you have the newest version of the script, as LorDBulA previously stated, taking out the client ruler portion of the script won't change the amount of time the AI turns take too much.
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    Default Re: does the AI use puppet/type 4 gov?

    I am using only the supported one with sweboz reform marker fix, not the unsupported one with the optimized client ruler script as well, as I was having some difficulty with it and I decided I never really needed the client ruler script in the first place.


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    Default Re: does the AI use puppet/type 4 gov?

    Taking it out won't make the game (much) faster; but it will make it more stable.
    It began on seven hills - an EB 1.1 Romani AAR with historical house-rules (now ceased)
    Heirs to Lysimachos - an EB 1.1 Epeiros-as-Pergamon AAR with semi-historical houserules (now ceased)
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    Default Re: does the AI use puppet/type 4 gov?

    Taking it out .... will make it more stable.
    COUGH! bullshit

    Sorry man I couldn't resist.
    Last edited by LorDBulA; 08-12-2008 at 10:41.

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    Default Re: does the AI use puppet/type 4 gov?

    Quote Originally Posted by LorDBulA View Post
    COUGH! bullshit

    Sorry man I couldn't resist.
    Let me see...two games killed by bugs with various guises of optimised script. One game still running perfectly fine with the entire client ruler section cut out. No clones to date, either.
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    Default Re: does the AI use puppet/type 4 gov?

    well I know people who have played several campaigns past 100bc... with the optimized scrip so... It could still be bad luck ...
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    Default Re: does the AI use puppet/type 4 gov?

    Quote Originally Posted by LorDBulA View Post
    No AI doesn't use them.
    You can safely remove this part of script but if you are using newest version of script dont expect to gain more then 2-4 seconds ( unless you have really slow computer ).

    How come I saw a Lucius Amicus Populi Romani walking around then?
    And early in my current campaign a Getai client ruler near Kallatis.

    I shall take a screeny next time I see one.
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    Default Re: does the AI use puppet/type 4 gov?

    By client ruler i mean character spawned by script not character that has "Client ruler" trait.
    If you check out EBBS you will see that there is condition that makes sure client rulers are spawned only for player faction.

    Anyway no need to beat the dead horse. Script implementation of client ruler feature will be removed in next patch.

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    Default Re: does the AI use puppet/type 4 gov?

    Quote Originally Posted by LorDBulA View Post
    By client ruler i mean character spawned by script not character that has "Client ruler" trait.
    If you check out EBBS you will see that there is condition that makes sure client rulers are spawned only for player faction.

    Anyway no need to beat the dead horse. Script implementation of client ruler feature will be removed in next patch.
    Wait so there is a 1.2 coming out?


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    Default Re: does the AI use puppet/type 4 gov?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Hunt View Post
    Wait so there is a 1.2 coming out?
    yes... but no one knows when <.<
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    Thumbs up Re: does the AI use puppet/type 4 gov?

    Quote Originally Posted by |||Lz3|||
    yes... but no one knows when <.<
    Tellos Athenaios told me it should be coming out early next week.

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    Default Re: does the AI use puppet/type 4 gov?

    Quote Originally Posted by Methuselah View Post
    Tellos Athenaios told me it should be coming out early next week.
    you mean the freakin week when I enter school again?

    damn... >.>

    still I doubt it... the EB team is known for not EVER saying when they're going to release the next patch ...
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    Exclamation Re: does the AI use puppet/type 4 gov?

    Yeah, I know. I was joking around with you.


    Anyways, due to a variety of reasons, I'm locking this thread.


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    Default Re: does the AI use puppet/type 4 gov?

    especially cause you're a moderator isn't it? xD
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