Duelling

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Bah. I spit on your flirt with aristocratic macho-nonsense.

Taking a life is illegal. And it should remain as such.

Do you support assisted suicide? If both parties agree to a duel in writing, both should have the reasonable expectation that they will die. Like soldiers, if you will.

[PBI]

It's an interesting take on it, however instead of viewing it as assisted suicide you could equally well view it as premeditated murder.

For the record, I do not support assisted suicide for anyone but the terminally ill. Certainly not for perfectly healthy young men who still have plenty to contribute to society. The example of Evariste Galois always springs to mind, a brilliant young mathematician killed in a duel aged 20.

[yesdachi]

It's an interesting take on it, however instead of viewing it as assisted suicide you could equally well view it as premeditated murder.

For the record, I do not support assisted suicide for anyone but the terminally ill. Certainly not for perfectly healthy young men who still have plenty to contribute to society. The example of Evariste Galois always springs to mind, a brilliant young mathematician killed in a duel aged 20.

So… if it were a pair of terminally ill people it would be ok?


We have thousands of years of animal instinct built into us and yet we try and hide it behind a fake sophistication where being physical is taboo. A personal dispute has to be resolved by courts and laws that are filled with loopholes and emotionless technicalities. I don’t think every argument needs to be solved with a death match but I think a good smack down now and again is healthy. Flashes of my childhood come to mind where fighting with my friends and brother was a good way to blow off steam and settle arguments. Maybe sometimes we need to embrace the inner animal.

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[Ronin]

We have thousands of years of animal instinct built into us and yet we try and hide it behind a fake sophistication where being physical is taboo. A personal dispute has to be resolved by courts and laws that are filled with loopholes and emotionless technicalities. I don’t think every argument needs to be solved with a death match but I think a good smack down now and again is healthy. Flashes of my childhood come to mind where fighting with my friends and brother was a good way to blow off steam and settle arguments. Maybe sometimes we need to embrace the inner animal.

we have plenty of laws that go against our basic animal instincts because our instincts don´t take into account the rights of other people....and the respect of such rights is necessary for us to function in a society...

if laws that go against our instincts where to be thrown away then one could make the case that for example the definition of rape should be removed from the law.....after all If I see a pretty girl walking down the street and my instincts tell me to have sex with her then what´s the problem?...the fact that she might not be so inclined?...pfff....I am stronger than her so I can force it so what´s the problem any way?

likewise 2 people kicking the crap and/or killing eachother does not "solve" anything.....it does not determine who is right....only who is stronger/more well trained/luckier/whatever.

[rory_20_uk]

If both of sound mind and body accede to this method of despute resolution, that's fine.

[yesdachi]

we have plenty of laws that go against our basic animal instincts because our instincts don´t take into account the rights of other people....and the respect of such rights is necessary for us to function in a society...

if laws that go against our instincts where to be thrown away then one could make the case that for example the definition of rape should be removed from the law.....after all If I see a pretty girl walking down the street and my instincts tell me to have sex with her then what´s the problem?...the fact that she might not be so inclined?...pfff....I am stronger than her so I can force it so what´s the problem any way?

likewise 2 people kicking the crap and/or killing eachother does not "solve" anything.....it does not determine who is right....only who is stronger/more well trained/luckier/whatever.

I am not talking about throwing out all the laws that allow us to function as a society. I purposely left out the sexual aspect but that is another topic we have tried to repress to the point it is almost sacrilegious to have an “impure” thought, which only builds the frustration that can be vented with a good physical tussle.

How many single people go to bed every night alone because they were too cautious/proper/shy/guilty to let an attractive someone know they would like to spend some animal time with them? I don’t know but I know there are a lot of randy people out there that could use a good nights worth of instinct (Olympic village anyone).

Occasionally consenting adults ought to embrace their animal, be it fighting, sex or anything else physical.

Who says two people kicking the crap out of each other needs to "solve" anything.

[Ronin]

Occasionally consenting adults ought to embrace their animal, be it fighting, sex or anything else physical.

Who says two people kicking the crap out of each other needs to "solve" anything.

We are kind of in agreement then...


I have no problem with 2 consenting adults that decide they want to bring violence upon each other....as far as I know the law already has no problem with this...it only becomes a police matter if someone files an assault charge.

but branding this a "duel" and giving it a specific definition in law gives it an air of significance that the act itself does not deserve......


as far as the sexual thing I also agree with you that people should be in tune with their sexual desires and less preoccupied with societal taboos...but that still doesn´t equate with throwing the rule book out the window...

[Kralizec]

Do you support assisted suicide? If both parties agree to a duel in writing, both should have the reasonable expectation that they will die. Like soldiers, if you will.

That's a good argument, actually. But even in places where asisted suicide it's proceeded by careful deliberation and review by medical experts. In contrast I don't see how you can prevent scenarios where one drunk challenges someone and the other is to far gone to refuse while he otherwise would have.

[rory_20_uk]

With regulation. Rules such as has to be sober, written contract etc etc.

It might stop drunks killing each other on the street if they have to get things sorted out and the red rage will have settled down.

[CountArach]

With regulation. Rules such as has to be sober, written contract etc etc.

It might stop drunks killing each other on the street if they have to get things sorted out and the red rage will have settled down.

No it won't help with that at all. Drunk people are still going to kill each other - if they are drunk enough to kill someone what makes you think they are going to stop and arrange for a challenge? Besides, if, as you suggest, they have to be sober to do it... then it physically cannot help anything.

[KukriKhan]

What is your stance on duelling?

No problem. It's just as ridiculous as war, with its 'rules' about who, and how, one human can kill another human.

Just know that where I live, the winner/killer gets to go to jail for the rest of his/her life, and maybe be served a life-ending drug cocktail as well.