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    Every time I try to boot up the computer, the computer gets to the Windows screen (with the logo where the loading bar is moving across the screen), and the loading bar gets partway, stops, does a quick blue screen (too quick to see what it says) and restarts. On top of this, the partition file says that I have 47()()()() megabytes free, when it's a 500GB HD - and I have about 200GB of data on there, which leads me to believe that it's been wiped. There's also an 8MB partition that I don't recall creating. Neither of my scanners (AVG and Spybot) picked up anything, but that's still a possibility.

    Windows will also not start in Safe Mode or Last Known Good Configuration.

    EDIT: Sorry, there is no second partition, just 8MB of unpartitioned space.
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    Is your HDD making any wierd noises? Excess noise? Grinding? Sound like it's powering off or down sporadically?

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    No weird noises from the HD - I've had issues with the little scumbag before, but I managed to get it replaced. HD seems fine.

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    Should I delete the second partition/wipe the HD and reinstall Windows?

    EDIT: Sorry, there is no second partition, just 8MB of unpartitioned space.

    EDIT2: Well, I deleted the partition and am going to reinstall Windows. There's no going back now.
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    And now my speakers aren't working.

    EDIT: Phew, quick fix and I dodged that bullet.
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    Not good. Really not good. It's doing it again. After a freeze while playing World in Conflict, I restarted the computer. It will not load past the Windows loading screen, but will just stay on there forever (or reboot itself).

    What is the problem? Is it my HD? The heat in the system seems fine, but the HD seems to keep wiping! This is pretty serious. Will I need a new drive, or is something else the problem?

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    It's karma for inviting me into that silly xfire chat while i was busy with my finances...
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    OK so there's a number of things we need to look at this point.

    First off, something that we might start with is getting you to install Speedfan. When you open it up, there's a tab called S.M.A.R.T., open that up, and select your HDD from the dropdown list. Take a screenshot and post that.

    Second, and I'm getting the sneaking suspicion that this might be the real culprit, is your ATA controller on your mobo might be going south. There really isn't any way to test this aside from swapping out with a new known good mobo and running for some time to check for stability.

    Third, there's a potential it could be other components. RAM and PSU are often tricky to troubleshoot and can create problems that are hard to trace back to them. Heat is another problem, unless you're 100% sure of the ranges of temps that your equipment is experiencing then it's not wise to eliminate that, that's not something one can get from "feel" or "intuition."

    Start with that and we'll work from there.


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    1) I left it overnight, and it started up fine, albiet with a little bit of lag. I still want to know what's wrong though. My computer seems to have an annoying (but handy) feature of fixing itself without ever telling me what went wrong.
    2) Temperature according to nVidia MonitorView is 36 Celsius for the CPU, 27 for the system, and 53 for the GPU. This is right now upon startup, though from experience those won't rise too much.
    3) According to SpeedFan, HD is at 27C.
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    53 for the GPU
    This temperature isn't too good. When did you run it? (When you started the pc, played a game, after some hours of use...?)




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    Quote Originally Posted by Caius View Post
    This temperature isn't too good. When did you run it? (When you started the pc, played a game, after some hours of use...?)
    The card is a superclocked 8800GTS, and it never artifacts or anything. nVidia GPUs are apparently rated past 120C, and 70+ is the mark where cooling should be increased. I've never hit 70 yet.

    According to nVidia forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caius View Post
    This temperature isn't too good. When did you run it? (When you started the pc, played a game, after some hours of use...?)
    Actually Caius.... that temp is fine. My GPU idles at 65C usually. The throttleback point for most modern cards is in the area of 100C, so they're designed to operate up there in those goatcooking temps.

    EMFM, your HDD appears to be rather healthy. Seagate had some problems with a number of drives made in China by the former Maxtor assembly plants. (Maxtor sucks the big one)

    At this point, you might try a new HDD cable. Try switching HDD ATA/SATA ports on your mobo. Try powering your HDD from a different cable coming out of the PSU, try a different rail if possible. If that doesn't work, then my guess would be it's one of either the mobo (most likely), RAM (less likely), or PSU (big stretch). If you've done a low level format after a partition wipe, and then a fresh basic XP reinstall (retail, not OEM) then I highly doubt your problems are software related.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacker View Post
    EMFM, your HDD appears to be rather healthy. Seagate had some problems with a number of drives made in China by the former Maxtor assembly plants. (Maxtor sucks the big one)
    I already had to send one drive back to Seagate, and the one I have in here is the replacement. This one isn't doing anything overtly abnormal though, the last one I sent in was chugging loudly.

    At this point, you might try a new HDD cable. Try switching HDD ATA/SATA ports on your mobo. Try powering your HDD from a different cable coming out of the PSU, try a different rail if possible. If that doesn't work, then my guess would be it's one of either the mobo (most likely), RAM (less likely), or PSU (big stretch). If you've done a low level format after a partition wipe, and then a fresh basic XP reinstall (retail, not OEM) then I highly doubt your problems are software related.
    Alright, I'll take a look around inside the case. Thanks.

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