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    In Nick Sekunda's book on the reformed Seleucid army is a reconstruction of Seleucid "companion" cavalryman, with shield ;)

    It's mainly based on the balustrade reliefs of the Temple of Athena Polias Nikephoros in Pergamon.

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    Notice how there are three distinct general units for the very similar bodyguards of Makedonia, Seleukeia, and Ptolemaia
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    There are 3 distinctly different generals by virtue of the General counting as a sort of super-officer in RTW's books. BUT, there are no 3 distinct different units in EB for that.
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    gamegeek2: Well, what has that to do with the bodyguards, if I may ask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchhoplite View Post
    And yes, i known sekunda has controversial ideas ;)
    that's an understatement I'm afraid...


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    Why do you think the Bes figurines are heavy cavalry? By far the most common Bes type for the 2nd century BC is a cuirassed thureophoros, or thorakites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paullus View Post
    Why do you think the Bes figurines are heavy cavalry? By far the most common Bes type for the 2nd century BC is a cuirassed thureophoros, or thorakites.
    Because this Bes figurine (the only one of its kind that I've seen) is of Bes wearing a muscled cuirass and carrying an aspis a sword while riding a horse.
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    Do you know where its from? Is it recent? Most of the good recent finds have been from Memphis-Saqqara as far as I've seen, but it could just as easily be a chance find from 100 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paullus View Post
    Do you know where its from? Is it recent? Most of the good recent finds have been from Memphis-Saqqara as far as I've seen, but it could just as easily be a chance find from 100 years ago.
    The source I got if from lists it as provenance unknown, unfortunately. The book I found it in (Hellenistic and Roman Terracottas from Egypt by Laszlo Török) is primarily composed of objects in Hungarian collections, so it being the result of an older discovery seems pretty certain.

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