How Org could better serve the needs of MP players,Clans and the MP community?

[vartan]

As someone without S:TW experience or any Shogun history knowledge, I'll keep my post simple as I can. Tera's posts, starting with #10 in this thread, hit the nail on its head. It all boils down to the distinction of the various roles, from players all the way up to mods and admins. Probably more important, even than that, would be the attraction. Why do some people buy a specific newspaper of their liking every day? They go there to read those headlines, to find those interesting stories. These daily (or other frequency) ticks are what would solidify the Guild (or the 'Org') as the place to go for the multiplayer community (at least for S2:TW, to be specific).

Call me a fanatic, but I believe this for the past 6 years 3 months now. I always thought MP players should run their own stuff on forums as Moderators/Admins. Call me a 19 century militaristic Prussian, but as much as I enjoy and respect our SP crew, I just think MP players are better at handing their own problems since they can relate to it.

AKWC88, you know what I'm thinking. Although, I'm more for an integration of SP and MP, a hybridisation, an interweaving, not a segregation (of course SP and MP need separate forum sections, I am referring to another sense of community). And another contrast, AKWC88, also falls back onto what Tera has mentioned. That is, roles need not be vague but specific in their descriptions. The player should be one thing, the mod another, yet the admin another. The mod/admin would almost necessarily be one who has plenty experience in the field, though, of battles, tournaments, and so on. Even some web management would be handy (case in point). In any case, good luck to the S2:TW community, including SP and MP.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

As someone without S:TW experience or any Shogun history knowledge, I'll keep my post simple as I can. Tera's posts, starting with #10 in this thread, hit the nail on its head. It all boils down to the distinction of the various roles, from players all the way up to mods and admins. Probably more important, even than that, would be the attraction. Why do some people buy a specific newspaper of their liking every day? They go there to read those headlines, to find those interesting stories. These daily (or other frequency) ticks are what would solidify the Guild (or the 'Org') as the place to go for the multiplayer community (at least for S2:TW, to be specific).

AKWC88, you know what I'm thinking. Although, I'm more for an integration of SP and MP, a hybridisation, an interweaving, not a segregation (of course SP and MP need separate forum sections, I am referring to another sense of community). And another contrast, AKWC88, also falls back onto what Tera has mentioned. That is, roles need not be vague but specific in their descriptions. The player should be one thing, the mod another, yet the admin another. The mod/admin would almost necessarily be one who has plenty experience in the field, though, of battles, tournaments, and so on. Even some web management would be handy (case in point). In any case, good luck to the S2:TW community, including SP and MP.

We need to make sure new people want to come here. I know that the CCS players hate .Org for several reasons, one being the s-called elitist attitude here. One vet needs to make sure he/she does not act arrogant with new players or that will drive them off.

[AMP]

The elitist attitude here is nothing compared to other gaming forums that I've been to. I haven't seen vets rip apart new players here like I have at other places... then again I don't read every post here, so I wouldn't know, but I haven't seen anything horrid yet. :)

[Sp00n]

The elitist attitude here is nothing compared to other gaming forums that I've been to. I haven't seen vets rip apart new players here like I have at other places... then again I don't read every post here, so I wouldn't know, but I haven't seen anything horrid yet. :)

Have to agree with AMP i've never found this site Elitist at all, the only issue is that in general the older generation of TW players consider the newer TW games to be a pale shadow of the first 2 TW games in Multiplayer, now WOW hardcore raiding guilds omg there's elitism for you.

[Togakure]

I think it's more that newer TW fans like the newer games, and here, many liked the older games and tend to criticize the newer ones. It's not so much players giving players a bad time, but old players giving the new games a bad time, and maybe putting down players who like the new games by association. If the newer players defend the new games and then get put down, I can see how they might leave in a huff for sites like the TWC (which caters to the newer games--look at its forum structure and tell me what's missing ...).

When I think "elitist," it has little to do with skill level and more to do with groupie attitudes and behaviors. It's a certain arrogant snobbiness associated with those who see themselves as members of an "in" crowd, excluding or at least dismissing others who aren't--basically like in high school. I know some highly skilled players who aren't elitist at all. Conversely, I've know many clannies--mediocre players at best--who could be very elitist. Elitist and elite are not the same.

How can the Org better serve in this context? Assure that discussions stick to criticisms of the games and moderate instances where it becomes criticism of the people who like those games. Downplay elitist behavior and things that encourage it when it comes to what gets posted on this board. Don't cater to the "in" crowd. Be as fair as possible to everyone. Generally speaking, the Org has been pretty good at this.

New players (that like the new games ...) come to sites that have what they want. What do we have that they want? How do market that? If we don't have it, how do we create it? And don't flaunt what they don't want ....

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

The elitist attitude here is nothing compared to other gaming forums that I've been to. I haven't seen vets rip apart new players here like I have at other places... then again I don't read every post here, so I wouldn't know, but I haven't seen anything horrid yet. :)

Go on Battlefield 2 forums, Not bad, though I seen some gruesome elitism there.


Well, I think .Org has to find that bridge between the older and newer players so we can have a better MP community.

[vartan]

Go on Battlefield 2 forums, Not bad, though I seen some gruesome elitism there.


Well, I think .Org has to find that bridge between the older and newer players so we can have a better MP community.

I have found that bridge in A Nerd. He is an oldie (that's not meant to be offensive) and we enjoy socialising here at the Guild. I'm finding it less uncomfortable to socialise with people twice my age or thereabouts, since we all have similar interests, us people who come onto these forums.