Preview: The Qarthadastim

[Denixen]

Wow, this is amazing, thank you guys! The new features seems to be both more numerous and more complex, just as we like it :D.
One of the things i really appreciate is that now all units basic infantry have sword, or so it seems. All units in the pictures had a sword modeled on their side, but only the sacred band units wield it in their hands (and a lovely kopis no less, or at least a sword with similar design). Is there any confirmation on whether the Liby-Phoenician Hoplites and Libyan Infantry will have swords that are usable and not just modeled? I really missed the swords for Liby-Phoenician Hoplites when I was up against other sword wielding nations like rome.

[Klearchos]

Amazing preview!!!
The province descriptions were great, and the shields look perfect!!

[Reno Melitensis]

No words can describe what you are doing EB team, you are simply fantastic.

Cheers.

[James Purefoy]

As I was ogling the lovely units, I noticed something about this one:

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That star on the.. red shoulder-pad. I thought that was mainly a Greek symbol.
Did the Carthaginians use it, or is this just a part of the unit that is still WIP?

p.s. Units still look awesome

[Noble Wrath]

A few observations:

1) The notion of the Liby-Phoenicians being the non-privileged offspring of phoenician citizens and libyan peasant girls seemed always a bit problematic to me. I could not understand whether they were militia type soldiers or professionals, whether they bought their own equipment or it was provided by the state and most importantly why those "half breeds" fought in a phalanx formation whereas the Libyans who where clearly professionals and equipped by the state fought in a thyreophoroi/thorakitai fashion.

The new description answers all of my above questions: The Liby-Phoenicians are now just the citizens of the phoenician colonies other than Kart-Hadast (the possibility of intermarriage with locals being irrelevant to their social status), they are a militia force and as such they fight with their own panoply, using traditional tactics.

2) The possibility of rebellions led by disloyal generals or client rulers is thrilling. Just a question: if the settlement governed by such a character revolts, then does this general defects to the eleutheroi faction or is he just evicted by the settlement and still belongs to our faction? (in which case we must send him pirate hunting in the Baltic )

3) I really like that if all provinces administered by the council are lost, this government option (and with it I guess some elite units) are permanently lost. It gives your core provinces the importance they deserve.

4) The units are orgasmic as always.

[Tanit]

1) The notion of the Liby-Phoenicians being the non-privileged offspring of phoenician citizens and libyan peasant girls seemed always a bit problematic to me. I could not understand whether they were militia type soldiers or professionals, whether they bought their own equipment or it was provided by the state and most importantly why those "half breeds" fought in a phalanx formation whereas the Libyans who where clearly professionals and equipped by the state fought in a thyreophoroi/thorakitai fashion.

The new description answers all of my above questions: The Liby-Phoenicians are now just the citizens of the phoenician colonies other than Kart-Hadast (the possibility of intermarriage with locals being irrelevant to their social status), they are a militia force and as such they fight with their own panoply, using traditional tactics.

Thank you!

Just out of curiousity; I remember the team collaborating with Charles R. Krahmalkov for the reconstruction of the Qarthasti-Phoenician language during the preparation of EB1. What's up with that? (Unless it's confidential to the team or any interested parties of course. )

This was done by Kikosemmek, our Punic language expert, and Urnamma, the old FC of Carthage. It is true this was done for EB1, but most of the names were redone for EB2 by myself, Kiko and GG2.

When will the demo come out?

This information is classified. :)

[Earl of Memory]

As always, great preview, very professional. I wish good luck to the team and the mod! (and hope it gets out before the end of the world :p)

[Brave Brave Sir Robin]

Good to know Carthage has been confirmed for EBII

Excellent work. The units look awesome

[delablake]

Beautiful as always. Looking forward for a little Christmas-Season gaming session...perhaps

[HFox]

magnificent!!!

[Skullheadhq]

Awesome, we had to wait a little bit but it was worth it.

[Bucefalo]

Awesome work, on all fronts. Firstly it is very refreshing to read about the carthaginians in general (and the military) from a less romano-centric point of view, i learned a lot from this preview (such as the lybio-phoenician is more of a derogatory roman word that anything else).

I was also surprised to read that the so-called sacred band cavalry was little more than a myth, plus their new outlook as a hellenistic cavalry armed with xyston makes a lot of sense, in the context of the period of EB. In this regard i think the update from the original EBI version is very noticeable, and shows how much work has gone into it.

I must admit that i am a little skeptical regarding how will the AI handle those government types and authority buildings, but i must also say that i am amazed of how much the mod will change the mechanics of the campaign gameplay of M2TW, specially given the limitations, it is both impressive and ambitious, to say the least.

Finally i can not end without recognising the extreme and detailed work that has gone into the models/textures to bring them to another whole new level of accuracy and detail, delighting the fans to no end. I guess the unit part is always the most catchy and what people likes more, because as the saying goes "it goes throught the eyes" but i appreciate the work done on all fronts nevertheless. In this preview i specially enjoyed the research gone into it, because it debunked a lot of the conceptions that i had about the carthaginians and in my opinion showed them from a more objective point of view and less influenced by the roman authors. All in all excellent work, thanks EB team for another awesome preview.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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When will the demo come out?

This information is classified. :)

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When will the demo come out?

This information is classified. :)

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[Tanit]

My apologies.

[Cadwalader]

Oh, EB team, you're spoiling us!

Thanks for another interesting and deeply satisfying preview. I'm as amazed as ever about the work you put into your mod.

[-42-]

Quick question, the description of the Noble Cavalry states that the horses wore peytrals and chamfrons, have those simply not been modeled yet?

[bobbin]

The horse models and skins have not been finished yet, what you see on the unit card is a placeholder from another unit (celtic noble cavalry i think).