Star Wars: Fall of the Order [Concluded]

[ULC]

So, I'd say if we were going to test this plan, we'd better do it very soon or not at all.

Exactly - this is the perfect time to do it. Beskar is weak, we still have 50+ players. The roleblocker has someone they know they can target instead of targeting randomly, meaning a Sith is roleblocked, not a possible and more likely protown role. We get to see what happens, then go from there. If it's holocron based, then we are screwed from the get go anyway - if it's based off of a master (which current trends might indicate due to the detective reveal on TC, which means only some players can be recruited) then roleblocking them as long as possible might work.

This is obviously a plan that WON'T work with 30 or less players, IMHO.

[naut]

-Beskar grows more difficult to kill every day we let him live.

Valid point.

[Chaotix]

Ok. I'll agree to let this plan be tested, then.

Unvote, Vote: Ignoramus

I do hope there actually is a roleblocker out there.

EDIT: Tomorrow, Beskar must die. No question.

[dcmort93]

Also @ seon and chaotix, I love how you guys imediately jump on me for voting for zack but you don't jump on Sasaki for doing the same thing. This to me SCREAMS scum trying to save their own butts by trying to get a lynch on me instead of your possible mafia buddy Zack. For now my vote will stay on Zack, but FOS Seon and Chaotix

[ULC]

Valid point.

Indeed.

Ok. I'll agree to let this plan be tested, then.

Unvote, Vote: Ignoramus

I do hope there actually is a roleblocker out there.

EDIT: Tomorrow, Beskar must die. No question.

Not arguing with the edit.

[pevergreen]

Beskar should give me all his information.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Beskar: (7) Jarema, Beefy187, Ignoramus, Zack, Frozen in ice, Autolycus, johnhughthom

Ignoramus: (6) Sprig, robbiecon, choxorn, Seon, Sasaki Kojiro, Chaotix

dcmort: (1) Nightbringer

Zack: (1) dcmort

[Nightbringer]

Beskar should give me all his information.

Agreed, but i still dont see why people are going with ignoramous, i understand and agree with the plan of waiting on beskar but personally i see dcmort as far more suspicious.
He has been posting scummy for the last few days. It is possibly town scum but given the lack of a strong case against ignoramous (as far as i can tell), i would say dcmort is better. Especially given the fact that pevergreen reported that the role he submitted was possibly suspect.

I'm not saying i think ignoramous is a bad choice, and if i must i will vote him above most other candidates, but i am going to keep my vote on dcmort so he is not forgotten about.
Finally, where are you diana abnoba, speak up some, you seem to have been as wordless as darth
maul recently.

[Choxorn]

I do hope there actually is a roleblocker out there.

Yeah. Anyone with a roleblocking ability, please PM pevergreen. Pever, tell us if you get any PM's about that. If not, then we'll have to assume that nobody can roleblock, at least not yet, in which case we should lynch Beskar.

[Chaotix]

Beskar is actually in the lead?

I realized that I've actually made contradictory posts over the past day phase, so I'm calling myself out on them before anyone else can- I said I would keep my vote on Beskar and then blatantly changed it to Ignoramus...

Both of them need to die. The only reason I'm not going after Beskar is because of that possibility of a roleblock.

pevergreen, have any roleblockers contacted you? I'd say at this point if we don't know a roleblocker exists, we may as well lynch Beskar.

[Ignoramus]

Beskar is actually in the lead?

I realized that I've actually made contradictory posts over the past day phase, so I'm calling myself out on them before anyone else can- I said I would keep my vote on Beskar and then blatantly changed it to Ignoramus...

Both of them need to die. The only reason I'm not going after Beskar is because of that possibility of a roleblock.

pevergreen, have any roleblockers contacted you? I'd say at this point if we don't know a roleblocker exists, we may as well lynch Beskar.

I don't think the town wants to be killing me...

[pevergreen]

So far I've not seen any abilities that block anyone else.

A bunch of people have not sent anything to me. Should we try to get everyone to? If we do, i'll actually put some effort into the collaborating of info.

[naut]

I don't think the town wants to be killing me...

Soft claim. You're already under extreme suspicion. Unnecessary and makes you look scummier. Say the whole deal, or say nothing at all.

[Chaotix]

Unvote, Vote: Beskar

If we don't even have a roleblocker I'm not taking any chances.

Better chance of preventing a kill this way than that way, if you know what I mean.

EDIT: It's about 1:30 AM where I am. Going to sleep, don't expect posts for a while.

[Ignoramus]

I'm just saying that because everybody else is saying "The town needs to kill me", and yet have not a scrap of evidence except the fact that I didn't want the game to be closed. Sasaki, in particular, seems to have a vendetta upon me, but never bothers to explain why. If my posts seem scummy, then be thankful I actually bother to post - it would be safer for me not to in the current circumstances.

[pevergreen]

So keen for Ig to die Rythmic, why don't you send me what you can do, eh?

[Captain Blackadder]

Vote
Ignoramus

Whilst I think that Beskar needs to be lynched soon assuming we have role blockers he is not a threat and as they say better the enemy you know then the one you don't. Ig seems to me to be the better lynch since his death will give more information to town one way or another whilst Beskar's death will only show what we allready know i.e he is scum. Plus if the recruit system is anywere near the same as before it is better to leave him alive at least for one round.

[Nightbringer]

Vote
Ignoramus

Whilst I think that Beskar needs to be lynched soon assuming we have role blockers he is not a threat and as they say better the enemy you know then the one you don't. Ig seems to me to be the better lynch since his death will give more information to town one way or another whilst Beskar's death will only show what we allready know i.e he is scum. Plus if the recruit system is anywere near the same as before it is better to leave him alive at least for one round.

according to pevergreen (who has the most info) we do not have role blockers, plus it would be far more beneficial to get rid of dcmort as he has been far scummier than iggy. (oh, and i think the format is supposed to be vote:name you missed the colon, probably doesnt matter though)

[pevergreen]

I said I haven't seen an ability that blocks actions. There may be one or more.

Cpt Blackadder knows how to vote, don't worry.

[naut]

So keen for Ig to die Rythmic

Don't put words in my mouth. I'm pointing out the facts of the situation.



Ig has been scummy continuously. Beskar is scum. dcmort has also been epically scummy. They all need to be lynched, the order it occurs in is trivial.

[classical_hero]

This is getting interesting and complicated at the same time. I have now read the past few days actions, since Im missed the last few days and now I have n idea who I think should be lynched. We know that Beskar is scum but he might be useful, but ignoramus is sayin he is innocent, but he looks to be scummy right now and then ther Kage, who because very defensive for no reason at all. So for now, I think that is is best to vote for a known scum than take a chance. Things cound change as the day grows and we learn more.vote:Beskar

[Nightbringer]

I said I haven't seen an ability that blocks actions. There may be one or more.

Cpt Blackadder knows how to vote, don't worry.

thanks for the clarification!
:)

In any case, can someone please explain the case against iggy again, because i really dont think there is much of one. i may be wrong, i just dont see where it is all coming from when we have such obvious scum as dcmort and beskar (although i agree that he is worth keeping around for a round or two to see what we can learn from him.)

[Ignoramus]

Regardless of whether you vote for me or not, can we please have some more people voting? Currently, we still have way less than half and that's simply not good enough.

[Choxorn]

This is getting interesting and complicated at the same time. I have now read the past few days actions, since Im missed the last few days and now I have n idea who I think should be lynched. We know that Beskar is scum but he might be useful, but ignoramus is sayin he is innocent, but he looks to be scummy right now and then ther Kage, who because very defensive for no reason at all. So for now, I think that is is best to vote for a known scum than take a chance. Things cound change as the day grows and we learn more.vote:Beskar

classical is still giving me a scummy vibe.

FOS: classical_hero

[Ignoramus]

I'll second that FOS; that post of classical's was totally meaningless.

[Sprig]

Regardless of whether you vote for me or not, can we please have some more people voting? Currently, we still have way less than half and that's simply not good enough.

First sensable thing you have posted. But does nothing to alay my concerns. Feels like "look im town' post.

[Diamondeye]

So i find it interesting to see Stre-don Rett probably got scanned twice and evaded both times, I doubt the scanners are going to pop their heads up, so i am going to go out on a whim and suggest that Stre-don Rett is vote: Ignoramus.

pevergreen, you should be able to confirm?

I think that's actually a sound suspicion, even if Stre-don Rett is someone else, we should be cautious of him.

Let's make Beskar and Ignoramus fight. :)

Seriously, though, if there is evidence that Ignoramus is avoiding investigations, as someone or other posited, then lynch him. Otherwise, test the quality of Beskar's BS and lynch him.

I do have a question though, for Diamondeye and dcmort:

Is Force Breath single-use, or infinite?

It allows the survival of 1 lynch, but I guess, like in the previous game, it is possible to regain it afterwards.

I agree with sasaki, Zack you should let beskar speak his case and from what he has said he's on our side for the time being. When he decides to turn on us, if he decides that, then we lynch him but not now.
Therefore Vote Zack

This post drips of scum even if the vote against Zack is perfectly okay.

Ok. I'll agree to let this plan be tested, then.

Unvote, Vote: Ignoramus

I do hope there actually is a roleblocker out there.

EDIT: Tomorrow, Beskar must die. No question.

You'll want to post a vote in an unedited reply later. I agree that we must get rid of Beskar before he grows strong. I have nothing against us lynching him today, but if someone else wants to test out something on him, that's fine by me as well.

classical is still giving me a scummy vibe.

FOS: classical_hero

Seconded - FoS: Classical Hero

First sensable thing you have posted. But does nothing to alay my concerns. Feels like "look im town' post.

Be careful not to perceive everything through that lens - then whatever he says will just look scummy. On the other hand, it's obvious you have a point in that we should keep an eye on Ignoramus.

For now, I'm going with vote:Zack. Scummy McScum. But I have nothing against Beskar staying in the lead either. I don't know about Ignoramus right now...

[TinCow]

Both Beskar and Ignoramus are perfectly valid lynches today. If they do not want to get lynched, they need to actively convince the town that they should be left alive. Simply saying 'you have no evidence' and 'trust me' isn't good enough. Step up and justify your continued existence in a substantive manner, or you have no one to blame but yourselves for the eventual result.

To the town, do not concern yourselves with potentially lynching someone useful to the town. The kills are occurring very, very slowly and the game looks like it has a long time left in it. The death of a power role won't make or break the game.

[pevergreen]

Vote: Sigurd

I came across some new information.

At this point, Sigurd is the best lynch for today.

[dcmort93]

I think that's actually a sound suspicion, even if Stre-don Rett is someone else, we should be cautious of him.



It allows the survival of 1 lynch, but I guess, like in the previous game, it is possible to regain it afterwards.



This post drips of scum even if the vote against Zack is perfectly okay.



You'll want to post a vote in an unedited reply later. I agree that we must get rid of Beskar before he grows strong. I have nothing against us lynching him today, but if someone else wants to test out something on him, that's fine by me as well.



Seconded - FoS: Classical Hero



Be careful not to perceive everything through that lens - then whatever he says will just look scummy. On the other hand, it's obvious you have a point in that we should keep an eye on Ignoramus.

For now, I'm going with vote:Zack. Scummy McScum. But I have nothing against Beskar staying in the lead either. I don't know about Ignoramus right now...

Wow... just Wow. You say that I'm scum for believing that Zack was a bit too jumpy on his vote for beskar, but the you go right out and vote for Zack himself. Hypocrisy much?