Nazi references, Part Deux

[Louis VI the Fat]

Ask any history teacher on a school with enrichment about holocaust denial.

'Enrichment about Holocaust denial' - that's just perfect.

Fragony is always right about these things:

Reuters – Mon, 25 Oct 2010 22:25 NZDT

PARIS (Reuters) – Muslim pupils and parents in France are increasingly making religious demands on the state school system that teachers should rebuff by explaining the country’s secular principles, according to an official report.

The High Council for Integration (HCI) reported growing problems with pupils of immigrant backgrounds who object to courses about the Holocaust, the Crusades or evolution, demand halal meals and “reject French culture and its values.”

“It is becoming difficult for teachers to resist religious pressures,” said the report, published in draft form by the newspaper Journal du Dimanche over the weekend. The final report will be presented to the government next month.
“We should now reaffirm secularism and train teachers how to deal with specific problems linked to the respect for this principle,” it said.

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It's not the Madrassas. Nowadays, teachers often drop teaching about the Holocaust because they don't want to face another classroom intifada. And that's the public/state/secular school system.

[rory_20_uk]

There was an interesting I saw on the BBC website which happened to be about the first female Jewish Rabbi in Germany.

In the article it mentioned how Jews in germany place secular, National law above religious law. This is something that should be expected of all religious groups. Of course some have grown up with the state and so will be very similar. But if that's a problem then find a country with views that are more similar.

[al Roumi]

Jews in germany place secular, National law above religious law. This is something that should be expected of all religious groups. Of course some have grown up with the state and so will be very similar. But if that's a problem then find a country with views that are more similar.

Its interesting you say this, and the tricky thing about reconciling/absorbing/integrating Islam into western societies is that it is such wide ranging religion. We could have a very interesting and enlightening discussion about it I'm sure. Some Muslims, like al-Qaradawi truly see it as an all encompassing credo, others like Dr Kamal Helbawi (also Muslim brotherhood of Egypt) are more embracing of democracy and liberty.

[rory_20_uk]

So is Christianity or Paganism.

The expectation should be that religions bend to state rules and laws, and not the other way around.

[gaelic cowboy]

Some years back there was a massive fight outside the main mosque in Ireland as the more integrated and basically Irish in everyday life group came to realise that there Mosque had been taken over by Sunni Islamo-Fascist's funded by that beacon of light Saudi Arabia.

Unfortunately they lost the fight which was an actual street battle outside the mosque but the cat was out of the bag the evil was here and it was determined to shape the minds of the young muslim.

The one group who routinely protest agianst them is naturally the small Shia community as they worry the Sunni are trying to bring there oppression with them into Ireland.

[Fragony]

'Enrichment about Holocaust denial' - that's just perfect.

Fragony is always right about these things:

It's not the Madrassas. Nowadays, teachers often drop teaching about the Holocaust because they don't want to face another classroom intifada. And that's the public/state/secular school system.

I don't understand these schools just flung them. These kids often are as daft a donkey they will never achieve anything education is wasted on them, they are ruining it for also not too bright but motivated ones. No such problem occur in schools for non-braindead, discussion yeah but no primitive rage.