Star Wars: Fall of the Order [Concluded]

[Andres]

It is not like that first. There are at least three parties, with two main parties (Jedi, and Sith). They simply just have to kill eachother to win.

Why would we pay attention to what you say?

You're here for our amusement and nothing else, Sith.

Amuse us

[pevergreen]

Hes right. I asked ATPG and he has said that its not going to be endless again.

As for the killing to the dark side path, it does exist, but all we know is that killing makes you susceptible. We don't know more.

[Andres]

Hes right. I asked ATPG and he has said that its not going to be endless again.

As for the killing to the dark side path, it does exist, but all we know is that killing makes you susceptible. We don't know more.

So, Joooray having gone on a killing spree, makes him a problem, since he can be converted by the Sith now (assuming he isn't Sith already)? And he's a Jedi Master, not a low Initiate?

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Thank God almighty I'm still alive!


Can someone summrize for me who is the potenal suspects here so I don't need to get anymore confused then I'm already am.

[Andres]

We're about to lynch you, so you better start to explain to us why you should be kept alive.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Why would you kill the Poor King of Swissland?

[Andres]

Why would you kill the Poor King of Swissland?

Noblesse oblige.

[pevergreen]

So, Joooray having gone on a killing spree, makes him a problem, since he can be converted by the Sith now (assuming he isn't Sith already)? And he's a Jedi Master, not a low Initiate?

Yes. Though the current theory is that he doesnt become sith, but a "dark jedi".

Either way, theres no way to tell how far he is gone, and if it has had any impact on his alignment yet.

[Diana Abnoba]

Sorry Joooray, if it turns out that you are a Jedi Master, but to me, you are too much of a possible threat to the town, if you can be turned to the dark side with vig kills.

Vote: Joooray

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Noblesse oblige.

Es lebe der König!

[Renata]

Pizza also told me this is more a traditional mafia game than Sigurd's was.

Vote count?

[Renata]

Sorry Joooray, if it turns out that you are a Jedi Master, but to me, you are too much of a possible threat to the town, if you can be turned to the dark side with vig kills.

Vote: Joooray

Rebel Jeb is right -- this is a scummy post. No pretense of suspicion here, just doing it for the good of the town.

[Beskar]

Don't kill Joooray, he is going to become my Sith replacement. A ex-Jedi Master to boot.

[Nightbringer]

Don't kill Joooray, he is going to become my Sith replacement. A ex-Jedi Master to boot.

Bad Sith! BAD! Shoo!
Don't try to confuse us poor little Jedi with your evil bluffs, double bluffs etc...

As to the vote, I'm fine with jooray going. He hasn't helped much (your record is bad in this game jooray, youve killed two jedi), and even if he is a jedi master a new person will get promoted to that role.

however, i still think Wideyedwanderer is a much better bet.

[Khazaar]

Vote: Ignoramus I presume it´s between him and Jooray. Since the only obvious clue from the writeups is the red lightsaber I think we need to check the people that claimed vig/master/investigator stuff since none of that actually bore any fruit other than dead Jedi. Lynching inactives is close second, but maybe ATPG will wog them anyway so we don´t need to waste a vote...

[a completely inoffensive name]

I think us Jedi need to take the initiative and reach out to the Sith, find some common ground. Then I think we can come to sort some of bipartisan compromise on the breakdown of the galaxy that all parties can agree upon.

Furthermore I think Carthage must be destroyed.

[robbiecon]

I'm going to take my vote off Jolt. It is far more likely he'll be WoG'd then lynched anyway.

Unvote

Now moving swiftly onwards, we have Ignoramus and Joooray in the dock. Now, yesterday I did say that I was willing to let Joooray keep killing, so long as he followed what we told him. As for Ignoramus, I've already mentioned my theory that he may be able to use Force Breath again to avoid the lynch (unless it's one off use).

I'm going to Vote: Joooray, he is a self-proclaimed killer, and can we really trust killers?

[TinCow]

I've already mentioned my theory that he may be able to use Force Breath again to avoid the lynch (unless it's one off use).

In the last game, Force Breath was a one-off use. I have seen no indication that it's any different in this game, and Ignoramus has specifically stated that he can't survive another lynch because his Force Breath has been used up:

I do not have Force Breath anymore - you've exhausted that, so you will finally get rid of me this time if you want.

[God Emperor]

Random thoughts:

It has been mentioned that killing brings a Jedi closer to the Dark Side.

Where exactly is this mentioned ?

[robbiecon]

In the last game, Force Breath was a one-off use. I have seen no indication that it's any different in this game, and Ignoramus has specifically stated that he can't survive another lynch because his Force Breath has been used up:

Ah, thank you, that's cleared things up. However I think the fact that Beskar was encouraging the Ignoramus lynch yesterday is a good reason not to lynch him. I know his [Beskar's] purpose now is solely to mess with our heads, but I'm willing to let Iggy live.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Vote: Joooray

[Frozen In Ice]

Unvote, Vote: Wideeyedwander We've got Jooray's number, it will be hard now for him to do anything without the town knowing. Let's wait and see what happens this next night before we judge Jooray. Wideeyed is a much more unknown factor however.

[Renata]

Again I'd request a vote count.

Also,

unvote, vote: Wideyedwanderer

I'm not really feeling it on Ignoramus anymore -- if that last post of his was fake, it hit me right in my soft spot. Joooray, I still could be persuaded. There *are* arguments there, and I'm not sure to what extent my knee-jerk defense of the righteousness of vigilantes might be blinding me. It's not enough for me to vote him today, though.

Nightbringer had a very good observation about WEW, that, after apparently ignoring the game completely for a week or more, he turned up not an hour after someone finally voted him, with a comment that indicated he had been paying at least some attention to what was going on (or wanted to appear as if he were doing so). That's scummy. At least as much so, IMO, as killing WOG-bait for possibly dubious reasons.

After WEW, I am also suspicious of Blackadder (that vote rationale was so obviously fake) and Diana Abnoba ahead of Joooray.

[seireikhaan]

My apologies, midterms 2.0 was unkind for the last week or so. Vote: Robbiecon

Gut feeling based on his most recent post.

[Sprig]

The is a disturbance in the force: The Jedi can feel the force talk to them. They close there eyes and listen to what it has to say

'Forget Joooray, Do not let Ignoramus off the hook'

[Beefy187]

So, Joooray having gone on a killing spree, makes him a problem, since he can be converted by the Sith now (assuming he isn't Sith already)? And he's a Jedi Master, not a low Initiate?

Like I said, I think Joooray shouldn't be lynched in haste. As long as he keeps on killing scummy players.
But your theory of killing leading to the dark side is plausible. I'll vote for him if I see no other real candidate.

The is a disturbance in the force: The Jedi can feel the force talk to them. They close there eyes and listen to what it has to say

'Forget Joooray, Do not let Ignoramus off the hook'

Agreed. Ignoramus has been too much of a distraction even if he is innocent.

[Chaotix]

Agreed. Ignoramus has been too much of a distraction even if he is innocent.

That's scummy. All Ignoramus has been doing is posting.

The case we had on him was the fact he was posting at all (usually inactive) and a misinterpreted investigation. Then we lynched him, and he was even attacked and didn't reveal himself to be Sith.

I'd say while it's possible, the chances Ignoramus is Sith are not high.

And you want to lynch him because he's a "distraction", Beefy? FoS: Beefy

[Captain Blackadder]

Is there anything that actually says that vig killing can turn a player to Sith? I've seen it mentioned a couple of times now, but as far as I can tell it is just speculation based on the previous game, in which it was heavily implied --- but not the case. I like vigs too much; I don't want it to be true.

Nightbringer is absolutely right about wideyedwanderer. When does this day end?

Captain Blackadder's vote on WEW is also suspicious -- how can you "keep an eye on" someone who's only had five posts the whole game? That vote rationale is suspect.

Maybe I could have worded it better but I meant that i have read all his posts (not hard due to their only being 5 of them) and I find his behaviour suspicious it is the behaviour of someone going under the rader.

[Nightbringer]

Vote: Ignoramus I presume it´s between him and Jooray. Since the only obvious clue from the writeups is the red lightsaber I think we need to check the people that claimed vig/master/investigator stuff since none of that actually bore any fruit other than dead Jedi. Lynching inactives is close second, but maybe ATPG will wog them anyway so we don´t need to waste a vote...

ahh, another inactive jumps in just in time to defend his mafia buddy.

This one is feigning innocence by "presuming" it is between iggy and jooray. This is merely stating the obvious of what had been going on up until this point as well as prodding towards a two party election (lynching, same difference)

However, he too appears to have some degree of knowledge about what is going on in the game, knowledge that goes beyond what his level of activity would suggest.

He has been reading the write-ups and pizza's clarifications enough to know that only a RED light saber is a statement of guilt.
He is also aware of the possibility of lynching inactives, which would not be greatly obvious if he had just come in without paying attention.

He is also likely attempting to protect the person i see as our best bet of scum (WeW) by suggesting voting this way as a "waste" and suggesting they might be woged, when wideyedwanderer has just voting, assuring that will not happen for some time.

I propose that khaazar has been using the same tactic of hiding and staying under the radar as wideyedwanderer, only surfacing now that inactivity is being targeted in order to look active and to subtly protect his sith buddy.

While he has been more active than WeW he has been very uncontroversial with his votes, sticking to voting on the iggy bandwagon when he does vote.

In conclusion, FoS: khazaar

Since the only obvious clue from the writeups is the red lightsaber I think we need to check the people that claimed vig/master/investigator stuff since none of that actually bore any fruit other than dead Jedi.

ps. can you please clarify this khazaar, this argument simply does not follow for me. i dont see the relation between these two points.

pps. I too would like a vote count please

[Greyblades]

Hmph, Jooray's either a vigilante killer but has failed to kill sith or a sith himself and is posing as one, seems kinda like either way lynching him would lower the nightly kill count from three to two. I dont know, should we risk killing a vigilante for that?

I've thought it over and I don't think that the possiblility he is a vigilante is worth losing the chance to reduce the kill number to two people each night.
Vote: Jooray.