Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
interestingly, conservatives would also advocate fir ways for the work that one does. They would also be against Baby Factories and scroungers.

You appear equally happy for conservatives to be all fixated on removing the debt in one cohort yet subdivide the alternative from the "big spend". Conservatives would also be pro investing on infrastructure via a variety of funding methods.
This is why I don't mind the Conservative Party in the UK in comparison to many of the others in other countries, like America, where both Democrats and Republicans are to the Right of our David Cameron. (Something I have said before)

I am not a loyalist to any of the parties, I am non-partisan, so if the Conservative party does things I approve of, I have no qualms in approving. Remember when they were cutting down the benefits, and I created a topic saying I approved of it?

Q: if there is a problem with what is consdiered to be the left-wing, is it precisely because we don't have 'true' progressive-left parties anymore?
That could be the case. There are left-wing people, but some of them are what I would call 'traditional' left-wing, this mainly applies to the Trade Union crowd. These usually use outdated arguments and concepts, and would probably increase benefits "just 'cause" without any real logic behind that sort of action.