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    Vuk, I wouldn't say you encountered a gang. The kids you confronted aren't gangsters and aren't representative of them.

    They're stupid little kids who like to puff out their chest.

    We have some gangs near where I live - (Surenos, apparently feuding with other Surenos, the Bandidos, and some white supremacists). I saw a Bandido prospect in Walmart the other day.

    Those folks I certainly wouldn't go out of my way to confront. I get the idea they might not all be super tough, just much more willing to use violence than the average person.

    EDIT: See MRD's post above for a better explanation. Some weeks back there was a drive-by in they city I work in. Luckily the shooters were crap shots. And apparently their target pulled a gun and shot back. The police caught them shortly thereafter, but haven't managed to charge anyone but the driver.

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    I see what you mean, but my point is that gangsters are people who are in gangs. Like it or not, but being in a gang makes you a gangster, and they do commit small crimes. Most of the gangs in Wisconsin (with the notable exceptions of Milwaukee and Madison) are simply a bunch of stupid young punks who think that they are cool. Why are people afraid of such people? Is it really that hard to tell a serious gangster from the punks? Why then do a bunch of idiots dressing tough scare people?
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    Yeah, Vuk... Those sound like kids, not actual street gangs. Over here, you don't mess with gangs. Even if their recruits are poor little teenagers fleeing from broken families and looking for a sense of belonging, the gangs eventually shape them into hardened criminals and murderers. The prisons are full of them. It isn't cool. Even if you are lucky enough to beat one of them in a fair fight (and trust me, they don't fight "fairly"), it doesn't matter. They will go after your family. And then they will go after you. They have drugs, money and guns. And, what's more importantly, "they don't care." Their value on life, even their own lives, is pretty low. That's what happens when you have a twisted upbringing. Severe dysfunction.

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    Wisconsin gangs? That probably explains why you were able to intimidate those young fools. Go to LA and threaten them and the ending probably wouldn't be so nice for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuk View Post
    I see what you mean, but my point is that gangsters are people who are in gangs. Like it or not, but being in a gang makes you a gangster, and they do commit small crimes. Most of the gangs in Wisconsin (with the notable exceptions of Milwaukee and Madison) are simply a bunch of stupid young punks who think that they are cool. Why are people afraid of such people? Is it really that hard to tell a serious gangster from the punks? Why then do a bunch of idiots dressing tough scare people?
    The reason people are wary is because everyone else is using a different definition of 'gangs' than you.

    If you're going to say that gangsters are people in gangs, then I have to point out that groups of high schoolers in rural Wisconsin do not constitute a gang. Just because the little punk says he's in a gang doesn't mean he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuk View Post
    I see what you mean, but my point is that gangsters are people who are in gangs. Like it or not, but being in a gang makes you a gangster, and they do commit small crimes.
    I will say as well that we seem to have a semantics issue here. When someone says "gangster" to me, I think of organized crime gangs. (Mafia, Russian Mob, Hells Angels, etc. - as well as their lesser affiliates) The dictionary definition is "a member of a criminal gang". Yes, these kids commit crimes, but they are not a gang organized for crime.

    So, being in a deadbeat "gang" that shoplifts or graffiti's a wall (and other random misdemeanors), should not be referred to as "gangsters".

    Anyway, even a group of enough young kids with something to prove can be dangerous...like MRD says above.

    Just one word of caution...even if these punks are as laughable as you say...and you confront them on the street, and humiliate them. What is to say that they don't show up at your house when you are out and trash the place...or your car...or harrass people you know who might be less able to stand up to them. They don't even have to confront you directly to hurt you and those around you.

    All that said, people are often scared of all the wrong things. People are terrified of some biker friends of mine because of how they dress...but these guys are like public servants and computer programmers. They are not trying to intimidate anyone, but people are afraid of them anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguara View Post
    I will say as well that we seem to have a semantics issue here. When someone says "gangster" to me, I think of organized crime gangs. (Mafia, Russian Mob, Hells Angels, etc. - as well as their lesser affiliates) The dictionary definition is "a member of a criminal gang". Yes, these kids commit crimes, but they are not a gang organized for crime.

    So, being in a deadbeat "gang" that shoplifts or graffiti's a wall (and other random misdemeanors), should not be referred to as "gangsters".

    Anyway, even a group of enough young kids with something to prove can be dangerous...like MRD says above.

    Just one word of caution...even if these punks are as laughable as you say...and you confront them on the street, and humiliate them. What is to say that they don't show up at your house when you are out and trash the place...or your car...or harrass people you know who might be less able to stand up to them. They don't even have to confront you directly to hurt you and those around you.

    All that said, people are often scared of all the wrong things. People are terrified of some biker friends of mine because of how they dress...but these guys are like public servants and computer programmers. They are not trying to intimidate anyone, but people are afraid of them anyway.
    lol, well my point is that people treat them like they are a genuine criminal gang. Jag, honestly, I am not worried about these losers. First of all, my Uni is nearly an hour drive from my house, and they do not know where I live (they are in the same city as my Uni, but I live out in the country). They know very little about me. Every member of my family except me is always armed. :P We are all crack shots and I have a lot of guns in my house. (including three at my bedside)
    Why would I worry about a bunch of underage punks? Why should my family? Hell, they mess with my 55 year old mother, and they are gonna be dealing with OC, an 8 inch knife, or a club! (not to mention major retribution if they are that dumb) :P
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