Askthepizzaguy Mafia II: The Revengening [Concluded]

[Choxorn]

MRD, you do realize that you're still on my naughty list, even if you are voting for yourself, right?

[Beskar]

Do you realize how scummy that sounds? I thought we were all agreed that the best pro-town strategy right now would be to conserve our credits. So you'd like all the townies to spend more credits than is necessary just to "prove" that they are in fact townies? That's simply a bad plan. It won't actually prove anyone innocence; it won't improve the likelihood of the real Chaotics getting lynched; it won't accomplish anything but drain the town's credits.

Incorrect. People are wasting time and credits by gnawing away pointlessly. In VotA if certain elements simply put the credits where their mouth is it would had been far more advantagous then hosting a circus every round. This round was a complete scumhunt washout., so either kill him or be quiet then the game can progress.

[GamezRule]

Meh. I was going to abstain, but I might get a few extra credits out of this.

bet: 4 credits on MRD

[a completely inoffensive name]

When is this round finally going to end?

[Askthepizzaguy]

TIME UP. Votes after 0100 will not be counted.

[Bow-wow-wow]

I think I can guess who is getting lynched today......

[Askthepizzaguy]

DAY FOUR

I'm exhausted, been awake too long and did a late shift yesterday followed by an early one today, and I was awake for the whole Bin laden news thing. Forum hiccup ate my story. So guess what, here's the result, story to be inserted later for those who derive amusement from the write-ups.

Whoever got the most votes for an item will get that item. Ties will be broken by random.org. Major Robert Dump, however, is the obvious lynch today. Tally to be inserted later.

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Major Robert Dump- Rudolph [Evil] Bizarro Mafia (The Night Santa Went Crazy) 2 of Diamonds
-------------Day Four


You wagered credits, you lost credits. You wagered nothing, you lost 1 credit.


Also, please stay tuned for this important announcement:

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SO THANKS FOR THE VOTE I DO SAY
DON'T MIND IF I DO TAKE THIS BUTT X-RAY

Butt X-Ray.



You gotta admit, that was certainly very Bizarro.

Begin Night Four.

[Askthepizzaguy]

edit, double post

[Choxorn]

Pizza, there seems to be a typo in the write-up. It seems that Major Robert Dump's alignment is listed as "evil." It should be "chaotic." Please fix this as soon as you have time.

[Believer]

Well hot diggity. That was the best town-distraction I have ever seen.

[Major Robert Dump]

OUT. STANDING.

With this crack team of investigators on the case, we'll find Jimmy Hoffa in no time.

[Zack]

Why the [expletive] did you waste so many town credits saving yourself!

Inexcusable!

[Jolt]

Hi there, Earthling

[Visor]

If he ain't dead tonight, he's gonna be lynched.

[Kagemusha]

This whole debacle with MRD and Earthling is just a distraction. Meanwhile i sense utter scumminess in Renata who seem to be acting like a politician. She has certain opinions about certain people, but just not enough will to drive her cases.To me it stinks like she completely knows who the scum are, so all her talk is just a smoke screen.

[Major Robert Dump]

Why the [expletive] did you waste so many town credits saving yourself!

Inexcusable!

This is rich. So rich, in fact, that I will not comment.

I think less that this was an actual "distraction" orchestrated by scum and more of case of Detectives Who Suck and Will Not Listen To Reason, which allowed the scum to sit back and laugh.

Oh and before I forget



I told you so

[Renata]

Then make yourself useful and find out who was sitting back and laughing.

[Renata]

I need a few people with minor defense-of-others items or minor defense-of-others skills (or the willingness to spend 50 credits on defense with no guarantee of being successfully attacked -- only really practical for our resident coin thieves) to contact me, please. Mind the rules.

[Beskar]

Well hot diggity. That was the best town-distraction I have ever seen.

Indeed, I saw through it when it started. I think people shouldn't be flocking to certain people for advice who have a track record of not delivering.

[Subotan]

Surely the .Org is aware of the convention "Lynch All Liars"?

[Beskar]

Surely the .Org is aware of the convention "Lynch All Liars"?

Speaking of that, who counter-claimed saying Rudolph was some one else? I believe Renata was the messenger of that nugget of information.

Renata, kill your source with a vig or lynch them tomorrow. This is not a request.

[Renata]

That's already been talked about; it was Earthling. You want to go up against that magical shield, be my guest. I'd rather try to kill a suspect who's not going to see it coming.

[Subotan]

Earthling, you're next.

[Jolt]

That's already been talked about; it was Earthling. You want to go up against that magical shield, be my guest. I'd rather try to kill a suspect who's not going to see it coming.

Oh.
Surprise, surprise.

EDIT: Hi there, Earthling

[Earthling]

Hi there cowardly scum!

Still can't come up with an actual reason to accuse me though can you? Go ahead, I'll list several that you've implied are lies but you don't want to commit yourself to a false accusation do you? You think my role claim is false, that I wasn't attacked by the chaotics, or what? Because otherwise you'll be trying to kill off a guy who is openly against the chaotics and was attacked by them twice and you know it, I'm not a chaotic.

There's an honest way to approach this here, and that's if Jolt is evil, the last thing he'll want is to try and waste hundreds of everybody's credits again tomorrow. Especially with him apparently saving so much of his own after all, that's another reason he should read the below carefully since if he is a lazy Innocent and saved all his stuff it could get stolen tonight.

So instead of hundreds of other people's credits tomorrow, don't we think Jolt should use some of his own tonight? Don't believe my role claim and self-defense ability? Come attack me, I don't mind. Bring a friend too for a second vig-attempt if you want, I'd guess you have about 20% odds of success if you were truly regular Innocents and aren't scum with hidden abilities to attack, that's not so bad, still less credits wasted at most compared to a hypothetical lynch tomorrow.

But I know Jolt isn't going to try that - the reason is he's too much of a coward if not a straight out scum, even a successful attack might reveal something about his character in the writeup or something, so he'd rather steer the lynch using other people's credits. But I'll give you a second, better option that's less of a risk - detective scan me. I also don't mind whatever you find out there and reveal because it's what I already said and it's true. And at the low cost of 80 credits it still saves everyone time and credits compared to your hypothetical lynch tomorrow. Otherwise the sheer pointlessness of trying to lynch an obvious non-chaotic with no reason - it's not like MRD scanned me either or something and has any reason to claim something about my role, he just wanted to save his own lying hide this whole time - is really sad.

I'd encourage everyone to note that for Jolt or others like them if they don't show up with a vig result or detective scan or something similar in hand and try to lynch me tomorrow then you know the case is false and pointless. If they want to claim something about my role is false or deny that I've been attacked, find a supposed non-chaotic vigilante who attacked me and not a scum or whatever. Please feel free to do this, but then you'll have a verifiable claim that you will hang for next if and when you lynch me and I'm evil.

[Earthling]

I had something else to recommend to anyone out there reading this about protection etc..., and that's that we would be fighting a losing battle with random attempts here, I don't think it's worth it. shlin could perhaps bus driver Renata with a random guy and not tell who and I'd ask one third person to add additional protection to shlin if they can do it. But after last night when I don't know how protection wasn't arranged on strong Innocent prospects like choxorn or Zack I'd recommend people to not blindly go about following someone's else's protection or roleblock orders or what, we'd just lose credits way too fast and help the chaotics because of that. They really have a wide open field of possible kills and we can't defend them all. If you're a random evil guy looking to spend some credits somehow, 20 or 30 credits to steal from the hoarders and potential scum would be far more effective, my impression is the scum are way ahead on steals seeing as they've drained several likely Innocents but I don't know of any potential scum who has been drained by stealing right now. If it were just up to me I'd call open season on stealing from Warman, Blackadder, Rabbit or any more serious lurkers we don't like.

[a completely inoffensive name]

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So kill warman, blackadder and rabbit.

[Major Robert Dump]

I guess a Queen died somewhere, and the new crown went to Earthling the Diva Drama Queen. In case her majesty has not noticed, her ideas and plans so far have worked out about as well as a fart at a funeral.

Even more telling is that Earthling calls for the death of "serious" lurkers like Warman and Crazed Rabbit when there are people out there who have posted far less, bet far less often, and had little or no input into this game other than showing up to vote 1 credit. And Earthling calls for Crazed and Warman to be lynched? Pathetic and obvious when you read the survivor list and realize just how many people have only said Bet 1 XXXX and nothng else.

Furthermore, Zack and Choxorm were not "obvious" innocents unless someone scanned them and didnt bother to tell the rest of us. The only thing that made them "obvious" is that they sided with Earthling against one MRD. Yet Earthling talks about how someone should have spent money to protect them? I suppose we should have protected
Robbiecon and Romanic, too? Just write us a shopping list.

In fact, Earthlink talks a lot about other people's money, and seems to have a problem with people being "hoarders." Earthling is also still unaware how bus driver works.

@Renata: I don't need to help solve anything. Now I will sit back and watch the house burn. My explanation too simple you say? think about that again, and the fact that there are cover roles that can only be revealed by an uncertain, expensive detective scan; and the fact that clans are gonna screw over other clans with the intent of policing their own clan last, for the sake of victory points; and the fact that this game is largely based on money, items and skills. 10 clans with 5 members, one of whom is chaotic or nuetral....too simple? sounds like chaos to me.

Anyway, I need to go on 4 days vacation before leaving the country: I'm headed to New Orleans to rent a hotel and rent a girlfriend for four days. Before I leave though, I needed to check with Earthling and make sure its okay. Can I go Her Majesty?

[Earthling]

If you can actually kill someone and plan to do it just off of something random like that, go ahead and attack rabbit, would be my recommendation, sure. Two of those three have been conspicuously absent since the day three lynch of civplayah and I don't know what their intentions are tomorrow, but they seem like good candidates for random scans, thefts or whatever in general too.

That's another thing I'd ask of Jolt or whomever wants to propose I am chaotic, go ahead and speculate who you think I'm working with. I'm happy to say that yes, I'm accusing a few folks of possible collusion as a group, from the original MRD lynch attempt anyone who bandwaggoned to up the credit tally and who does not admit to doing it out of factional squabbles. Because I clearly have had like zero allies in anything except for dead Innocents and no one supporting me in votes, night actions, or whatnot, the same is another obvious reason I'm not chaotic, but if people are being serious about it go ahead and try to come up with something.

edit - MRD, stop it with the completely wrong lies. You're clearly wrong about how you thought bus drivers work if you honestly think they do something other than switch two people with respect to actions that happen to then, and also nobody else still even said anything else about bus drivers this whole time besides you. You might derive pleasure from continuing to try to bring the town down out of spite even while dead but I think everyone collectively will disagree.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Even more telling is that Earthling calls for the death of "serious" lurkers like Warman and Crazed Rabbit when there are people out there who have posted far less, bet far less often, and had little or no input into this game other than showing up to vote 1 credit.

I don't know about you guys, but when I lurk I am always serious about it.