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Askthepizzaguy 05:31 06-05-2011
Originally Posted by Romanic:
How do you explain what Secura did?

Of course she a good player, enough to know that this "soft-claim" would get her into trouble, no matter if she's Town or Mafia, if the real Lady Gaga counter-claims her. So why did she do it? I just don't understand.
Before this game even started, and thus, before Secura had her role, she altered her title, as did Diamondeye, to include reference to Gaga.

Secura is a Gaga fan, as am I and several others here. The fact that she would RP as someone she loves is not evidence of scum, especially if she was doing so before the game began.

I wanted to be weird Al Yankovic, and I'm not, but if I started quoting weird Al, it wouldn't be scummy of me. It would be me being a fan.

I honestly, do not see how it is a tell. In order for odd behavior to be used as evidence of scum, I need to see one of the following things be true:

1) That kind of behavior has to be at least slightly more common from mafia than as town (psychological tell)
2) It needs to make sense as a strategy, even in the WIFOM sense. (tactical tell)

Neither applies here, it cannot be a tell, even if she were scum. It's not connected.

Now, I'm not saying she's innocent either. She could indeed be scum. But the case on her is absolutely meaningless, and I'll stand by those words.

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Romanic 05:41 06-05-2011
Yeah, yeah, I like Lady Gaga's music too, and I'm aware Secura does since she had LG's picture on her MSN avatar for a while, but it doesn't explain why she quoted her lyrics in this game (well, I find you explanation dubious - that she wanted to roleplay someone she likes, since it's not her role). Whatever her role is, I would expect Secura to know better than do this.

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Askthepizzaguy 06:10 06-05-2011
Originally Posted by Romanic:
Yeah, yeah, I like Lady Gaga's music too, and I'm aware Secura does since she had LG's picture on her MSN avatar for a while, but it doesn't explain why she quoted her lyrics in this game (well, I find you explanation dubious - that she wanted to roleplay someone she likes, since it's not her role). Whatever her role is, I would expect Secura to know better than do this.
Secura is a bit quirky. "Knowing better" doesn't necessarily apply. Remember her performances as SK and as Mafia where she didn't go all killer instinct on us.

She doesn't play with teeth, she plays for fun. And as her win record as mafia shows, that's good enough. You're seeing a tactic where there probably is no tactic.

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Splitpersonality 07:56 06-05-2011
bunvote; Vote Autolycus

To keep things close.



Tally:
Secura – 2 (Robbiecon, autolycus)
Autolycus – 2 (ATPG, Spl1t)

Abstain – (Visorslash)


Notes from this small tally:

Renata makes 3 posts, and 2 votes. The post being a stab at the death of a neutral artist. Perhaps her flourish is to be the last neutral artist left? Hm.

Originally Posted by Visorslash:
Unvote; Vote: Secura

Someone's gotta keep the pressure on. :D
He votes for her, though at this point the tally is already 2 on Secura vs 1 on himself. Just something that struck me as interesting, though given his amount of posts and vote changes, at least compared to other players, I'm unsure if it is relevant.

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Csargo 08:32 06-05-2011
I agree with Romanic.

ATPG your argument makes me

Vote:Visorslash
You make me nervous.

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Askthepizzaguy 09:39 06-05-2011
Originally Posted by Csargo:
ATPG your argument makes me
Ignore the argument, and your sadness will be cured.

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Visor 09:59 06-05-2011
Originally Posted by :
Vote:Visorslash You make me nervous.
Csargo your argument makes me

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classical_hero 13:26 06-05-2011
vote:Autolycus His vote on Secura looked not right to me. It might not be much, but it is something to go on this day, since we don't have much to go on.

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Secura 13:40 06-05-2011
Originally Posted by Romanic:
Why you would do that, if not to draw the real Lady Gaga out. Explain it again.
My reasoning is twofold, really; I'm vanilla (despite being a cool musician :<), and thus the only impact I can have is posts and votes... quoting Gaga's lyrics was a means of fun, to fill the gap while I waited for an inevitable cannon fodder death, as per. My reasoning was, if I can scrape by and live past the early game, I could have a greater impact on the game itself.

The second reason is simple discussion; it's certainly got everyone talking and it's gone beyond my expectations by causing a few slip-ups in people's logic as they try to jump on an easy bandwagon... even if y'all follow through and lynch me, you've got stuff to go on with for later rounds.

I realise that I haven't actually voted, so I'm going to follow my earlier convictions and vote: Believer. You were particularly active in Animus, yet here you're skirting by, barely posting... what gives?

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Diamondeye 15:39 06-05-2011
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy:
She doesn't play with teeth, she plays for fun.
Youtube Video



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Believer 16:20 06-05-2011
Originally Posted by Renata:
unvote: vote: Believer
Originally Posted by Secura:
I realise that I haven't actually voted, so I'm going to follow my earlier convictions and vote: Believer. You were particularly active in Animus, yet here you're skirting by, barely posting... what gives?

Ladies, I thought you had my back? :(
As for my activity; This game has shorter rounds, I went to bed at 08:00 AM CET and before that I only saw useless accusation of Secura, I woke up about 20 minutes ago (17:00 PM CET). There wasn't much to say about the Secura bandwagon, I trust that she can take care of herself.

Now, to vote. I've always wanted to do this. :$
Vote: Renata

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Renata 17:15 06-05-2011
I like you too Believer. :)

And whoever guessed I'm a neutral -- nope.

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B-Wing 17:20 06-05-2011
All this back and forth between Secura and Visorslash ain't doing no good for any of us. I don't trust either one of you; nobody talks that much unless they got something to hide. But I gotta vote: Visorslash for flip-flopping on his votes so much. You gotta make your decision and stand by it.

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Seon 17:21 06-05-2011
VOTE Visorslash for presidency!

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Secura 18:45 06-05-2011
Originally Posted by B_Ray:
I don't trust either one of you; nobody talks that much unless they got something to hide.
Have you never played a game with Pizza and his sesquipedalian loquaciousness? He usually ranks among the top posters in nearly every game he plays, does that mean he's scum with something to hide in each and every one?

I think that this is a poor approach to take to playing mafia; would you rather than people simply vote and not contribute anything? That I allow people to accuse me and then don't defend myself? Lurking doesn't win games often, and it's not behaviour I endorse or adopt.

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B-Wing 19:38 06-05-2011
Originally Posted by Secura:
sesquipedalian loquaciousness
I don't know what that means, but I just tried repeating it and I vomitted in the process. I would vote for you now, but I'm already committed to bringing down Visorslash. And Lady Gaga? Her music's alright, but what kind of person is she? Just a celebrity, looking to be famous by whatever means necessary. I can appreciate the determination, but I'm the realest artist in this studio. Anybody that would openly support her gets my suspicion.

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Believer 21:18 06-05-2011
Originally Posted by B_Ray:
I can appreciate the determination, but I'm the realest artist in this studio. Anybody that would openly support her gets my suspicion.
2pac! I knew you'd come back to us one day. Keep it real brother. <3

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Diamondeye 21:23 06-05-2011
Music Mafia
The end of the second day

All through the day, the passing of the much-beloved Lady GaGa had kicked the Artists into action, and the day was dominated by heavy debating and arguments flying back and forth. The focus shifted from one Artist to the next, and at sundown, it seemed as if a small plurality had finally decided to take action against Autolycus. The three accusers closed in on him, the crowd in the background not daring to stop them.

"You killed GaGa!"
Autolycus looked at them, a strange glint in his eyes.
"What are you gonna do? Cry?", he answered. The eyes of the accusers widened.
"You don't deny it? You killed GaGa?"
One of them pushed Autolycus towards the edge of the cabinet, that fateful fall which could not be survived. He found his balance just before the edge, and then he reached around his back and found a gun.
"Yeah I did. Sue me. You want me to kill you, too?"
He pointed the gun right at one of his accusers. "Let's dance a little dance, shall we? Everyone, square dance with me!"
And he started firing maniacally at the feet of his accusers; they quickly backed away.
Except one of them didn't, he just shifted to the side, outside Autolycus' line of sight. With a sudden movement, he closed in and pushed the renegade rapper over the edge.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
Autolycus was Eminem!

He was of Neutral popularity and of neutral favor with the DJ!


Tally:
Autolycus: 3 (Spl1tp3r50nal1ty, AskThePizzaGuy, Classical_Hero)
Secora: 2 (Robbiecon, Autolycus)
Visorslash: 2 (Csargo, B_ray)
Believer: 1 (Renata)
Renata: 1 (Believer)

Players Alive (14):
TheLastDays
Renata
Visorslash
B Ray
Romanic
AskThePizzaGuy
Robbiecon
Csargo
Secura
Chaotix
Classical_Hero
Spl1tPersonality
Captain Blackadder
Believer

It is now night two!
PM me your night orders, please!
Day breaks in approximately 24 hours - 10 PM CEST tomorrow.


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Seon 21:28 06-05-2011
BAD BOYS! You are supposed to be killing Visorslash right now! Not another serial killer!

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Believer 23:02 06-05-2011
Too late.. For the other side.

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B-Wing 23:08 06-05-2011
A true neutral admitted to murdering? So I guess it's not just the unpopular or the unfavored we gotta worry about. I'm gonna miss him, though. *pours some liquor on the ground*

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Romanic 23:50 06-05-2011
Apologies for missing the vote, I work too much these days. :(

I guess that finding a gun on autolycus/Eminem means that he might have been a serial killer.

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Captain Blackadder 02:08 06-06-2011
Hopefully he was since getting the sk this early makes it much harder for the mafia. Guess we will find out tonight.

Also if he is a serial killer then I was right that the second one on the secura wagon was scum.

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Askthepizzaguy 06:41 06-06-2011
I knew that case on Secura was horse dooky, but I knew that people following such a case were even more full of it.

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Csargo 06:54 06-06-2011
Calm down ATPG. It's going to be okay, just take deep breaths.

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Askthepizzaguy 06:55 06-06-2011
Originally Posted by Csargo:
Calm down ATPG. It's going to be okay, just take deep breaths.
Until I die!


I accuse you of being my eventual killer.

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Csargo 07:02 06-06-2011
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy:
Until I die!


I accuse you of being my eventual killer.
Hah! You can't prove I'll eventually do you have accused me of doing! Your accusation is cute but ultimately futile. My victory is assured!

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Visor 07:32 06-06-2011
Originally Posted by :
I would vote for you now, but I'm already committed to bringing down Visorslash.
Committed for the game? Or for the round?

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classical_hero 09:47 06-06-2011
Originally Posted by Diamondeye:
Before posting the writeup let me just say that this is awesome. You're the favourite for this game's "fluffy awesome" prize so far
If only she dressed properly she could be majorly hot after watching that video. It is a shame she tries to be "controversial all the time. She is totally in that clip, but I am a Youtube Video

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Visor 09:59 06-06-2011
Originally Posted by :
Secura is a Gaga fan, as am I and several others here.
Must kill.....

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