It's a surprise mafia [Concluded]

[classical_hero]

This has to come out in the open. Someone seems to have made a secret second account just so send me this message.

Firstly, you must not reveal your knowledge of this message to anyone, it's for your eyes only.

You've received this message because in-thread behavior suggests that you are a possible cult leader and I am approaching both cults here out of fairness and a sense of honor.

You have both been heavily compromised. TheLastDays is an unrecruitable townie that has been given access to both of your group's QuickTopics over the course of the game. Trust me when I say, he knows who all the leaders are and will be outing you day-by-day, if MRD doesn't beat him to it with the Pepperoni.

This is a recruitment game, and I want to win as a cultist, not a townie. I suggest that you both decide to remove TLD and possibly MRD as soon as you can kill. Feel free to ask questions, I'll answer as best I can while staying anonymous.

Again: keep this to yourself, you cannot trust anyone in your cult.

Since this was done in secret to me I have no idea who exactly is this player, so you can look for the name to know that I am not ing you.

Right now I don't have a good clue about is cult or not. But I have had a hunch about vote:GeneralHandkerchief for awhile.

[Major Robert Dump]

The author of that message says "your cult." What cult were you a part of and how did you get back to being a townie, or are you still a pepperoni?

[classical_hero]

I have never been cult so I have always been townie.

I might as well put a big target no back now, since the other remaining cultist, most likely the source of the PM will not try and kill me as a result of me saying that.

[Secura]

I do not know why he was killed other than the Sausages obviously thought he was a Pepperoni leader.

I will explain the reasoning behind the kill once the game ends, but there's a reason why I didn't choose our main suspect.

If there is a 2nd Pepperoni leader, there may be another murder on the night phase and at that point we are cutting it way too close.

The question is, why would the other cult even bother killing now? They can continue a cycle of lynching one of the town, recruiting the other until everyone is Pepperoni; if the game continued, that would indicate an unrecruitable townie still lives and that would necessitate a kill. Otherwise, it's plain sailing.

I have to say that I think that a town victory is the best course of action now (and I want you to win), if only for the fact that the Pepperoni Cult Leader is very, very undeserving of victory, for reasons I'll touch on at the end of the game.

My opinion may count for little as a dead cultist, but we strongly believed that classical_hero was the leader; I encourage both the former Sausages and the current Pepperonis to vote for him and win the game for yourselves rather than his cult.

I have never been cult so I have always been townie.

This is a lie; the rules state (as MRD has reiterated) that kills will only begin once everyone that can be recruited has been at least once. Obviously you realised this mistake and edited your post to make yourself look more genuine, since there's no stronger claim than that of an unrecruitable townie, right? :P

My message worked, even if the method was dishonorable.

I liked your style, though the reasons that TLD was killed were not based on your message, s'about all I can say.

[Askthepizzaguy]

What's the vote count?

If everyone has voted an hour from now, or let's be fair, 6 people have voted and it's not a tie, then the round is over.

My call is if 5 or less have voted, I'll give an extension. I'm off to work rather shortly so I won't be here for the 24-hour mark deadline.

Either decide or use the above to get an extension.

[Major Robert Dump]

Back to square one

Vote: Classical Hero

[Renata]

Sorry, MRD. You were right to be paranoid. I'm the town recruiter, and I'm pretty sure we have the numbers on you. More importantly, we definitely have your identity, and you're the last of the original cult leaders. The sausage cult is dead. The pepperoni cult was you and TheLastDays. You sacrificed him to get the information on the sausages, but it didn't quite work out. It's been a matter of choosing my time, and I think this is it.

vote: MRD

(I apologize tremendously for the issue with the deadline by the way. I lost track of it AGAIN. I wouldn't have saved it so "late" if I'd known; it's cheesy and not in the nice Pizza-y goodness way, either.)

For the townies, here is the evidence:

On TLD, here is post 29 of the pepperoni QT:

Well I don't think that Renata meant to not give out the QT link but to "mask" our recruits, giving them codenames in here although for those we've already mentioned it won't make any difference now...

Still, after thinking about it I guess it's worth to consider for the future...

It is signed by "Propagandist", one of the original cult leaders.

Here is post 43, by TheLastDays, The Boss' second "recruit" (I was the first):

WEll I guess it makes sense to reveal who I am, since I seem to be so popular in this game...

I've been recruited the night before, by the other cult... And now this night you guys recruited me, fun times ^^

If you want to lanch GH I guess it's easy for me to vote for him again since I have already shown inthread that I didn't like his wagon on Blackadder...

See the ellipses? It's a tic of TLD's.
Post 75

Guys, guys (and Renata of course), I walk out for a moment and all turns into a mess.

TLD, be careful. Now that people have actually voiced the opinion of you being a converted townie, this town converter might target you.

You seem to forget one thing though: The rules state that the killing will start when all recruitable players have been recruited at least once. So the townies that are recruited back to town will not slow down the way to killings.

What's the point of telling TLD to be careful if he's a real recruit? This is just for show.

Remember also the effort that TLD has been putting out all game, and how scummy he was.

And finally, what I thought for a time was a a bad MISTAKE from this team was actually strategy: they outed my name from the get-go despite knowing it would make me bait for any other recruiters who happened by (*cough*), because they wanted the cover (and the bait status) for TLD.

Now to Major Robert Dump. The first line of evidence is post 59 in the game thread. This is day one. See underlined.

Okay, lets try to figure out what the team distribution will be.

Obviously there are cult leaders and (per the game rules) at least 2 cults. The rules also mention other roles that aren't townie or cult, so maybe a serial killer or the like. That leaves 14 other people to account for. 14 v 2 v 1 seem kind of long odds for the cult and the serial killer. Unless the cults start with organic members other than the leader which would change the composition to who knows what. For example, are both cults equal or do they get specific talents?

Since cultists revert back to original cult after the (new) cult leader dies, I see a lot of misinformation getting thrown around when a cult leader gets lynched since his alignment won't be revealed but the remaining cult will regain members. I would say the most dangerous time in the game for townies will be if and when a cult leader is knocked off because of the sudden mass shift of members into one cult.

As much as I hate PIS accusations ( ), that is one heck of an extrapolation to be making based on the information at hand. (It's not even consistent with most cults I've been a part of.) I would submit that MRD already knew that there were two leaders of each cult, and is trying to present it here as a logical deduction as opposed to inherent knowledge.

I call MRD on this myself in the QT (once I find out), and get this response from "The Boss" in post 28:

#59 is MRD grasping at straws like he does in his first postings in games. It usually gets him lynched because it makes people paranoid and he would be a good distraction vote if there weren't already a bandwagon going.

GH is a threat to us if he knows anything.

I'm interested in recruiting possibly Romanic, DiamondEye and/or TheLastDays.

As for people getting this QT and not being converted/stolen from the cult, we have taken this into consideration and concluded that the pros of group communication outweigh the cons. The cultists will be on a need to know status.

Nice hand-waving, right?

There are also a number of similarities in posting style that I won't bother to point out, since I also have stuff like this PM:

No idea who the recruiter is, I want to say GH for tht thing with blackadder, but blackadder was not a clan leader unless he had a serial killer role type role.

If Seon has been recruited and then doesnt say anything, then he takes his chances like everyone else, as it stands I would recruit him back if he would give the word. The most we can legitamtely win with at this point is 4 ppl, even if we kill the recruiter we still have another day of lynching before the next recruitment phase. I have to kill tonight as much as I hate to, it is a necessity, otherwise we don't have a majority next lynch day.

This was sent to me and Seon. If I'm wrong about either of the cult leaders, then Seon is probably the one we're looking for, but I don't think I'm wrong.

Roll the dice.

http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/nCPDbCPXbafR