Midgardsaga III [Concluded]

[TinCow]

I seems pretty clear that either ATPG or Romanic is the mole, the question is which one. I have a feeling we're already toast, but we can at least redeem ourselves a little bit by ending with a solid lynch.

[White_eyes:D]

It all is talking about Reenk, nowhere does it talk about autolycus. Regardless, Reenk is dead and is a King.

[Earthling]

Well Andres/Loki being absent pretty much confirms he is behind the crazy naked kills. That still devastated the town.

I would guess White_eyes was obviously not anyone important, got roped by Roink and/or Loki to bluff on their behalf. Tincow I'm assuming had mason status or something with her father too, else third party victory of some sort for just those two but still not Jotun.

So that leaves far too many lurkers who could be Jotun, but what several people said about ATPG still sounds good, he's been lying and certainly had the opportunity to betray the town network. Between him and Roman I'd say it's time to lynch ATPG today, best shot for the town, though I would also agree to Andres out of spite just to cause Loki defeat too if the town realizes it's doomed.

Roman's role PM doesn't look fake and he sounds like he's telling the truth. If he was the last King but also a Jotun they'd have won right now, so that's not it to start though curious what is up with glyphz. However if Autolycus was the King of Halagoland, which we didn't expect to have a King except maybe the Usurper from there, that could mean there were seven Kingdoms with a nominal King (could still have Jotun cover role) which is unexpected but otherwise one of the other kingdoms comes up short. Writeup notwithstanding we need to list the Kingdoms out again and preferably see glphyz's claim.

[Tratorix]

It all is talking about Reenk, nowhere does it talk about autolycus. Regardless, Reenk is dead and is a King.

Here:

The Hålogaland got severely injured and could no longer defend himself. The Hordaland man slashed powerfully downward, opening the rib cage of the Hålogaland man who slumped backwards obviously dead.

A dark shadow lurked into the Hålogaland camp looking for a certain man. The man was however nowhere to be found. The shadow stood up and sniffed the air and grinned. He searched the area and finally found what he was looking for. He crouched and picked up a King’s cloak pin. He whispered; Two remain.

Is the autolycus part.

[White_eyes:D]

So, autolycus was the Usurper? Reenk picked well if that is so...come to think of it, he was trying hard for him to be killed if all else failed and he succeeded.

[Tratorix]

I seems pretty clear that either ATPG or Romanic is the mole, the question is which one. I have a feeling we're already toast, but we can at least redeem ourselves a little bit by ending with a solid lynch.

ATPG was auotlycus' champion, if the Jotun were trying to kill him, why would they need to wait for Reenk to reveal who he was? I'm thinking it's Romanic or nothing.

[Reenk Roink]

Oh my god. That was the best kill write up I have ever seen in a Mafia game. I like it more than the Rise of the Mob sniper one. And having it done after whooping auto's *** makes it all the better. I mean the fight wasn't even close auto. 7-1.

The only claimed king we have is Romanic. glyphz hasn't claimed king but he did have the Kage substitution which suggested it. Atpg claims Champion (of autolycus who was a king).

That in itself makes Romanic look the worst, but then again, Atpg could very well be a Jotun who had a cover role as auto's champion which auto himself didn't know about. And why the heck is glyphz not dead yet? Given the nature of Midgard where the Jotun are extremely well entrenched and have huge benefits in terms of cover roles, glyphz possibly could be Jotun.

I'd still vote for Romanic because we really can't be expected to figure the other ones out at all.

There is one more matter. I didn't follow my own advice and I revealed to someone just last round. I revealed to TinCow after it became clear he was Gyda. It was a hasty move on my part (half joking too), but he was the first one to know my role (unless I had been investigated or something). I wanted to know what exactly Gyda was doing and her goal (she was mentioned in my role PM). It seems really odd that Gyda herself would be aligned Jotun too, so I just went ahead.

I can't help but speculate that TinCow now is working for the Jotun. It's not sure if he is of course, but... my daughter... how could you?

Oh and bets on the other Jotun? I have been thinking fluffy and robbiecon since last round (with Romanic).

[Reenk Roink]

Well Andres/Loki being absent pretty much confirms he is behind the crazy naked kills. That still devastated the town.

I would guess White_eyes was obviously not anyone important, got roped by Roink and/or Loki to bluff on their behalf. Tincow I'm assuming had mason status or something with her father too, else third party victory of some sort for just those two but still not Jotun.

So that leaves far too many lurkers who could be Jotun, but what several people said about ATPG still sounds good, he's been lying and certainly had the opportunity to betray the town network. Between him and Roman I'd say it's time to lynch ATPG today, best shot for the town, though I would also agree to Andres out of spite just to cause Loki defeat too if the town realizes it's doomed.

Roman's role PM doesn't look fake and he sounds like he's telling the truth. If he was the last King but also a Jotun they'd have won right now, so that's not it to start though curious what is up with glyphz. However if Autolycus was the King of Halagoland, which we didn't expect to have a King except maybe the Usurper from there, that could mean there were seven Kingdoms with a nominal King (could still have Jotun cover role) which is unexpected but otherwise one of the other kingdoms comes up short. Writeup notwithstanding we need to list the Kingdoms out again and preferably see glphyz's claim.

I HAVE BEEN WAITING TO DO THIS THE ENTIRE GAME:

[Reenk Roink]

Oh, I forgot to mention, I also revealed to White eyes (and fully, with role PM), but that is different because White eyes and me had been through too much together this game to have anything but 100% trust.

[White_eyes:D]

It had tons of spelling errors in it....how could any self-respecting mafia player think it was real, is beyond me.

[TinCow]

There is one more matter. I didn't follow my own advice and I revealed to someone just last round. I revealed to TinCow after it became clear he was Gyda. It was a hasty move on my part (half joking too), but he was the first one to know my role (unless I had been investigated or something). I wanted to know what exactly Gyda was doing and her goal (she was mentioned in my role PM). It seems really odd that Gyda herself would be aligned Jotun too, so I just went ahead.

Last night I investigated you. I did not fully trust you because your role PM mentioned me, which made me think you were the one who was trying to kill me. I did not think that it was likely that I would be mentioned in any role PM other than my hunter's. My investigation works as an activity investigation, but if it's used on my hunter I will kill him... so, I guess in that sense I did kind of attempt a kill on you last night. However, you died from Jotun first and I didn't even get a result.

[thefluffyone93]

I can see that this game will end in victory for the town.
Probably.
Maybe....
....................
Who am I kiddin'?
The town is doomed, and its HI-LARIOUS.

[Reenk Roink]

I believe you princess. Remember our favorite movie Say Anything? Now come here and give me butterfly kisses (don't tell mommy about the other girls by the way).

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

do you guys even know that movie?

[Reenk Roink]

Here is the etiology of Norway's terrible performance in hockey. By killing their only good player his genes would never be able to spread (you think anyone would bone Gyda? ). Thus the Finns and Swedes can put medal contending teams out and the Norwegians lose by double digits each game.

A cloaked man approaches the place where Eirik of Hordaland rests, holding an amulet in his hand. Greetings, Eirik King of Hordaland. The Gods are pleased with your actions, and it is time for your ascension.
Eirik looked eager now. The cloaked figure continued; there must be an official ceremony to give you our blessing.
The cloaked figure led Eirik out to the fjord. He waved his hands and the surface of the sea froze solid. Eirik could hear beautiful laughter and from both ends of the fjord, beautiful women came flowing over the ice. They had something attached to their feet that made it easier to travel on ice. They surrounded Eirik and asked if he would join them in a game played on ice. Yes sure. They gave him a stick that ended with a bend. The goal of this game is to push this stone with your stick and put it into that box over there. She pointed at a frame with a fish net attached to it. The beautiful women divided into two groups and Eirik joined one of the groups playing as something they called Captain. They had a laugh and Eirik greatly enjoyed the game and was able to score the final goal. The winning team surrounded him again and showered him with kisses and promises of an eventful night. The cloaked figure came over and handed Eirik an engraved cup and told him that he has won the right to become a God.

Another cloaked figure hurries onto the ice and comes right up to the cloaked figure with Eirik. They whispered. The cloaked figure holding the cup suddenly turns to Eirik and apologizes. I am sorry but I have been informed that you have already been traded to another set of Gods two days ago. I am sorry; we have to take your price back. I will however arrange transportation for you to your new Gods.
The cloaked figure waves his hands and the ice is gone. Eirik sinks into the dark ocean. He can’t swim and drowns. The cloaked figure smiles wickedly and transforms into a hideous creature 10 feet tall. These puny humans are so easily distracted. The beautiful women transform into seals and swims out to open sea.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: Romanic

If you guys really think I am a Jotun, you should be voting for me. And you know what? I'm not even going to blame anyone for getting it wrong. You know what I'd do if I were anyone else but me? I'd be voting for me. Like I said, this isn't a time to get upset. It's a time to congratulate the Jotun on a game well played, and laugh it off. Lynch me if you want, that will be the icing on the cake. Romanic being townie would also be icing on the cake.

[Romanic]

vote: ATPG

Not gonna bother with a strong defense here.

DIY confirmed that ATPG lied about not knowing he wasa King, this alone should be enough for you to lynch him.

Pretty much all you have against me is ATPG's word that I acted scummy, meh.

[Askthepizzaguy]

DIY confirmed that ATPG lied about not knowing he wasa King, this alone should be enough for you to lynch him.

No, that was a simple, simple mis-speak on my part. When I say I knew all the kings, that included the dead DIY.... AFTER he was dead.

It's such a stupid point. Lynch me for it, though, go ahead. I don't mind, don't care. I will have my popcorn ready. This is right up there with Reenk challenging Autolycus. No matter what happens, the outcome is going to be stupid, probably.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Here, I'll even give you some ammunition:

Classical scanned me as being inactive on N1, while there were 4 kills. You know what? I was probably inactive on purpose to thwart that kind of N1 metagaming that always happens.

There, now the detective scan is meaningless. Lynch me.

[White_eyes:D]

If your a townie Pizzaguy, this is your last chance to try and swing the votes towards anyone who has been out of the spotlight. I am tempted to vote for Romanic, but we still have too many non-active lurkers.

Hmmm...anyone notice Thelastdays has vanished since my challenging him?
Vote:Thelastdays

[Chaotix]

Oh wait, and glyphz, too.

Kagemusha died in glyphz place -- that's champion or something like it.
Romanic tried to prevent 'khaan's lynching due to his being his champion, and 'khaan did turn up as a champion.
White_eyes under the circumstances will surely say he was just joking --- what's going on?

^^THIS IS IMPORTANT. LOOK AT THIS.

-glyphz is a confirmed King- no doubt about it. Kagemusha took the hit for him in the Holmgang, since he was his champion.
-The write-up mentions there are two Kings left, before Reenk was killed by the Jotun.
-Since Reenk was a King and was killed, that means there is now only one King left.
-Romanic has claimed to be a King. glyphz and Romanic cannot both be Kings. We have evidence that glyphz is a King.
-Therefore, Romanic must be lying. No getting around it.

Time to lynch Romanic, boys. Should've done this yesterday.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I suppose technically, we should kill off the champions before wiping out the kings. If the theory about a king being a Jotun is wrong, a champion probably is.

Champion? Like me? Like the guy who had that theory since the beginning? Was it PIS? Musta been.

TheLastDays, so far as I know, didn't know nearly as much as myself or Romanic. Is Khazaar still alive? He was a champion. He wasn't involved in the network at all.

Khazaar also hasn't gotten any pressure ever, I don't think.

Really, I'll vote for whoever. If it is Romanic he's been laughing his head off at us the whole time and earned this win. I only want to point the finger at him because that's who I think I'm supposed to point my finger at right now.

[Askthepizzaguy]

^^THIS IS IMPORTANT. LOOK AT THIS.

-glyphz is a confirmed King- no doubt about it. Kagemusha took the hit for him in the Holmgang, since he was his champion.
-The write-up mentions there are two Kings left, before Reenk was killed by the Jotun.
-Since Reenk was a King and was killed, that means there is now only one King left.
-Romanic has claimed to be a King. glyphz and Romanic cannot both be Kings. We have evidence that glyphz is a King.
-Therefore, Romanic must be lying. No getting around it.

Time to lynch Romanic, boys. Should've done this yesterday.

What if glyphz is a king with a cover role and had a champion too.

Are you sure that's proof?

Look, I want to kill Romanic as much, or more, than the next guy. But if you're going to use brain-related reasoning, be sure you're not overlooking something.

I'd use my brain but I'm too busy going like this:

[Romanic]

There's six Kings, assuming the same setup than M2.

4 dead : DIY, Renata, Believer, Reenk.

Then 2 alive, glyphz and me.

Chaotix, how do you figure there's only one King left?

[Chaotix]

None of that matters to me. I'm getting massive scum vibes from Romanic, and it has nothing to do with you accusing him. I wanted to vote for him last round, but I changed my vote to Diamondeye because I thought you had something on him.

Besides the giant arrows in the game setup pointing at his head, he's also been slightly off behaviorally. He's not radically different, but he was not as forthcoming with his analysis and accusations in the early game. Now that he needs to make cases to survive, he's doing it- and he's calling for your head because you're the easiest target, ATPG. Beforehand, he was content to make his vote and watch as we did something completely different. He also went rolefishing, as you've brought to light- something that, as a King, he shouldn't have to do personally, and shouldn't be doing so as not to draw attention to himself. But he can draw all the attention he wants, because he's in no danger of being hit.

I remember vividly playing against Romanic as mafia in ATPG Mafia 2. From the early rounds, he always - always - had a case on someone and he would push it, develop it, and do whatever he needed to in order to make sure he was listened to. He hunted us down, and he did a pretty good job of it. Right now, it looks like Romanic is grasping at straws. He is not putting the puzzle pieces together like he usually does- he's taking random pieces and trying to make a picture with them.

I'm gonna push this case till the scum dies already.

EDIT: I know there are more than 4 dead, but I'mma check again just for you, Romanic...

[Askthepizzaguy]

Autolycus was my king. I can confirm that is true, and the writeup should as well.

Autolycus died by Reenk's hands in a fairly even matchup, I think it's obvious that Auto was a king.

In my holmgang, the name of my group is mentioned, it's the same as Autolycus'. I am not sure if our Veteran died yet though.

Is the veteran still alive? Hålogaland

Askthepizzaguy

Ragnar “the Anvil” Karsteinsson

You are a Champion to the king of Hålogaland, Grjotgard Herlaugsson.
You come from a great linage of warriors and you have received the same training as that of your ancestors. This makes you a great warrior and you have particularly a skill with the blade.

If your King is challenged to a fight you can take his place. This is however risky as the Jotun will see that another took the king’s place.

Your King is: autolycus

Holmgang ability: 6

My holmgang is better than that now due to the win.

Also, I feel sort of like an anvil. It's quite fitting. Heavy, blunt, stupid, immobile, worthless except for striking things against.

[Askthepizzaguy]

By the way, the kings all should say "Human king" in the text, and the humans should say "Human" in the text.

I assume the cover roles are going to be the same way.

[Chaotix]

There. Caught you in another lie, Romanic.

Or is that just a simple mistake?

I imagine Tratorix is the Halogaland vet. I am the Hordaland vet.

[White_eyes:D]

What if glyphz is a king with a cover role and had a champion too.

Are you sure that's proof?

Look, I want to kill Romanic as much, or more, than the next guy. But if you're going to use brain-related reasoning, be sure you're not overlooking something.

I'd use my brain but I'm too busy going like this:

Well...glphz seemed more afraid to reveal that he was a king. Not the I am "afraid it well be used against me", but the I am "afraid it well be used to kill me" feel. I noticed the most loudest players with power roles were killed off...almost surgically in the middle going(When the network was going strong). Not like in the beginning or where we are at now...this really feels like TinCow's work. Kinda like "Netherworld"

Edit: But TinCow wins anyway since lynching Romanic won't hurt him in anyway, he just needs to get rid of glphz. And Reenk only revealed to me and TinCow....I thought it was a joke, my role pm was very simple and I never thought that Reenk was telling the truth.

[Askthepizzaguy]

At this point, Romanic should be voting for glyphz and glyphz should be voting for Romanic.


I think it is a LITTLE odd that glyphz never got murdered after the Kagemusha holmgang where glyphz was supposed to be involved.

It is either Romanic or glyphz. Period.

[Chaotix]

But TinCow is Gyda.

Unlikely he's a Jotun, and he's not the guy who makes berserkers since he was attacked by one. (Also, I think we are pretty sure that's Andres/Loki now)

If he's allied with the Jotun for some reason, we were screwed right from the beginning. But I like to believe we fell into this hole of our own volition.