Westeros: A Game of Thrones.

**Greyblades** · 12-26-2011, 08:14

Huh, I had forgotten about her, she didnt seem important enough to bother with, I suppose if she didnt go with Sansa she's still in KL somewhere.
I wonder where Beric dondarrion went, he was supposedly on the way to take Gregor Clegane's head yet I didn't get any messages about it.

**White_eyes:D** · 12-26-2011, 09:03

The more I look at it, the more it seems apparent to me that you need Dragons to hold the Iron throne and the Seven kingdoms together. That's where the Strong centralized authority comes from, because when all else fails "unleash the dragon" and that fear keeps the nobles in line.

Without them though....

**Greyblades** · 12-26-2011, 09:13

If that was true Robert's reign should have been one long disaster.

**Ishmael** · 12-26-2011, 09:33

Originally Posted by Greyblades

If that was true Robert's reign should have been one long disaster.

...and it wasn't? I can't recall the exact Crown debt at the start of GoT, but it was a lot (note to claimants: you'll be assuming this if you take the throne). And then there's the fact that the court at King's Landing became full of sometimes murderous intrigue, with Houses like Dorne plotting rebellion to top it all off.

**Greyblades** · 12-26-2011, 09:47

So? Even with dragons, kings caused debt, houses rebelled and a court full of murderous intrigue was standard.

**Ishmael** · 12-26-2011, 09:54

True, but the creditors wouldn't have pressed too hard on the issue of their owed money....

That, and I doubt the assassination of a king would have occurred if he had relatives with dragons waiting in the wings (no pun intended :D). Ditto houses rebelling and engaging in civil war.

**Greyblades** · 12-26-2011, 10:01

Well there was the faith millitant uprising that tried to do so, Maegor I was killed on his throne through mysterious circumstances. Jaehaerys I paid for the building of the Nightswatch castle Deep Lake by paying with his wife's jewels, which suggests he didnt have the money to do it himself and didnt want to take out a loan for various reasons.
Anyway this is not the point, the Starks are wussing out of going through legal means and diverting the subject when called on it: discuss.