It wasn't a tough decision with a lot of downside, especially compared to the downside for passing up on it. "perhaps panzer is right" yes I think so.
Most people give him a big thumbs up for it, but people are naturally put off when politicians try to sell their accomplishments too much.Because they were so on-the-fence before hand. These are largely the same people who believe that this administration's lack of movement on gun control is all part of a chilling Freemason scheme to take their guns away. Nah, I suspect those who turn purple with rage from this web ad are not the "persuadables."
"Even Jimmy Carter would have given that order,” Mr. Romney told reporters at a campaign stop here on Monday...“Over these last several days, we’ve seen our president go across the country and bring up all sorts of extraneous items, everything he can do to distract from the issue people care about,” Mr. Romney told the crowd. “I wish the president would start talking about the economy and stop trying to divert with all this silliness.”Based on Obama's response to Team Romney's fit of apoplexy, I suspect this is a classic rope-a-dope. Obama's great political talent always has been inducing self-destruction in his opponents.
Is this what you meant by fit of apoplexy or some other quote (I assume). Obama's ad dishonestly smears romney. I wouldn't praise that. Obama's follow up "I assume people mean what they say" was pretty bad too.
I see another quote now, something about "feckless foreign policy". Good word but it seems pretty standard.
I have a dailymail article somewhere too, it's pretty nice. I had a pretty good idea the guy was a hack from reading the article but man just don't praise stuff just because it's detailed.As for Corn, sorry for referencing, had no idea he was such a partisan hack. And SK, thanks for the gratuitous Tu Quoque of the screeching WMD-style article. Yay, two wrongs do make an omelet!
I'm not so sure about this. I remember another story about a raid in somalia. Presumably this kind of thing is done frequently and we're better at it than we wore. Times have changed. Bush was pretty harshly criticized and was mocked endlessly for the "mission accomplished" stuff. I would also think carter was unpopular for other stuff but I don't know the history for that era really. Way before my time.
I think obama should go for a broader focus and talk about what he's done with the drone strikes etc in combating terrorism on the whole, he would look much better. Especially since the context of the romney quote was about taking the problem as a whole and that was part of romney's response to the ad. Although the drone strikes are unpopular with some people I guess.
Huh, I went and read both the romney articles
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/op.../1x13HjVAzFRSg
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...ut-mitt-romney
And I don't really get the fuss. Perhaps the media is a little latched on to it's flip flopping romney story. Romney has serious criticisms of the way obama handled it, and there are significant similarities between his suggestion and what was actually done. I don't get economics but neither do political journalists as far as I can tell. If there's a problem it seems like it would have to do with romney being wrong about economics not some lightweight story about contradicting himself and claiming credit.
I tried to find the context for the Fehrnstrom quote but the video won't load, seems like it's from some press conference where they were talking about pranks and slow jamming the news and "the lighter side", so it seems silly to be so particular about the wording.
I remember bush getting hammered about that around the 2008 election and McCain working really hard to distance himself and obama working hard to connect him to it. I don't think it was brushed under the rug at all.Originally Posted by MRD
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