Mini Game: Vanilla Game 6 [Concluded]

[robbiecon]

This post is so scummy I am almost convinced of your innocence. No self-respecting scum would make a post like this… or would they?

Having played with DaveShack for quite a while now, I have to say that it is most uncharacteristic of him.

[DaveShack]

I'm so freakin' clueless this game it's not even funny. To be honest, I'm not getting a good read on anyone.

My defense is that scum killed me in the first place, and the communist resurrected me. Ergo I'm not scum.

[DaveShack]

And the nyquil comment was serious. I've gone through a box of kleenex in the last 24 hours.

[Montmorency]

How do you know it was scum? Surely there are townies or neutrals in this game with a kill or two.

Vote Crow and all will be forgiven.

[BSmith]

Having played with DaveShack for quite a while now, I have to say that it is most uncharacteristic of him.

Which is why I don't think he is scum. His post is way to obvious, especially for him.

[Ishmael]

Hmm, interesting developments overnight.

unvote, vote: Daveshack.

Sorry, but the Lazy/BSmith teaming forced me into it.

[Visor]

Ishmael was hung from the gallows for crimes against mafia players, and as he choked to death, his murdering tools fell out of his clothes.

The town gasped in shock at this mild mannered man who had massacred people.

Ishmael has been lynched.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

He was a member of the MAFIA

Alive: 5/10
5. LazyMcCrow
7. BSmith
8. Arjos
9. Robbiecon
10. DaveShack

Dead 5/10:
3. Nightbringer (Lover), committed suicide N1.
1. Montmorency (Town), lynched D2.
2. atheotes (Town), suicided D2.
4. SalmonSoil (Town), killed N3.
6. Ishmael (Mafia), lynched D4.


Time:

[BSmith]

Arjos: You're next, then Robbie if we need to.

[Ishmael]

Mild-mannered? Me?

At least I lasted a bit longer as mafia this game .

[BSmith]

Kinda hard not to.

[LazyMcCrow]

What do you say to that Monty? Seriously. You've been trying to lynch me ever since you got it wrong with Atheotes the first time.

[Montmorency]

You could easily be an unassociated scum. But, as the No Lynch is a thing of the past, I'm willing to consider alternatives.

[LazyMcCrow]

BSmith - why Arjos before Robbiecon?

[BSmith]

Let’s take a look at our two subjects:

Vote: atheotes

His case does make sense, when looking at the voting in D1, but what exactly is Dave now? Both converted by Monty and then by the commie?

24h is fine by me...

Late to the wagon with atheotes. His first meaningful post all game.

I think that the suicide, invalidated the votes, so the runner-up got lynched...

This is in reference to the Monty lynch. Helpful, yet safe post.

Vote: BSmith

He could have simply voted for "No Lynch" last phase, not to mention he was liable for a tie and voted to save himself...

An OK argument. But if he is scum and knows I am innocent then it is a great argument to try to get me lynched. You look for opportunities like this to come across as helpful townie and try to direct the lynch. I posted a defense to my actions in thread, but arjos doesn’t react until the next Day, after I vote for him again:

As you made quite clear, all your scenarios had another lynch (most of all Monty was clearing a victim and didn't lie about his role), while you could have simply abstained and still save yourself: to me that's not survival alone, that's getting rid of as many people as possible too...

Now you are making this weak distraction about the players' numbers...

Vote: BSmith

Not lynching anyone on the face of it sounds like a good idea for the town to do. Less townies dead is the overall goal, and lynchees are usually townie. This is a counterproductive strategy though as it allows the scum to survive as well and do bad things to the town at night. Lynching is a town’s main, and usually only, weapon. To not use it is a big detriment to the town effort. This is especially true in a cult game, and cult undertones are present in this game.

Arjos continues to push my lynch based on this false reasoning, until I let on more about my role and Lazy and I “team up” on the Ishmael lynch. It is no longer likely that Lazy or I will be lynched this day, so to try to save his partner, Arjos jumps on a really off statement by DaveShack in hopes of starting a counter wagon.

Cue Robbiecon who (with his second post of the game I believe) lends his support to the DaveShack lynch after DaveShack also votes for Ishmael:

Vote: DaveShack, it looks a lot like Lazy McCrow and DaveShack are the mafia, with that voting pattern today, and with so few people left, it's all about getting a lynch and a kill tonight, which is why either BSmith or Ishmael will do for the lynch (assuming they are both town).

Now Robbie could be strategically choosing his time to get back in the game to save Ishmael as well. This is a distinct possibility. It is also possible that both Arjos and Robbie are Ishmael's team members, and both are scum. Ishmael dutifully changes his vote to DaveShack as well in an attempt to save himself. On the face of it the vote is now a 3-3 tie, and it quite possibly has worked.

Neither Arjos nor Robbie pull back from the DaveShack vote after I point out the obvious flaw in their reasoning: DaveShack is too good and careful of a player to make such a blatantly scummy statement like he did if he were indeed scum.

Bottom line – I think Arjos and Robbie are quite scummy here. Arjos consistently making “good” arguments to try to get an innocent lynched, yet still staying in the background and not really being talkative or upfront in any other way. Robbie for his lurktastic performance and his swoop at the end to try to save one of his buddies. I’m fine with either one of them for the lynch, but have a better feel for Arjos, which is why I put him first.

Arjos – feel free to post more about yourself to help with this decision. Robbie you too.

[LazyMcCrow]

Let’s take a look at our two subjects:



Late to the wagon with atheotes. His first meaningful post all game.


This is in reference to the Monty lynch. Helpful, yet safe post.



An OK argument. But if he is scum and knows I am innocent then it is a great argument to try to get me lynched. You look for opportunities like this to come across as helpful townie and try to direct the lynch. I posted a defense to my actions in thread, but arjos doesn’t react until the next Day, after I vote for him again:



Not lynching anyone on the face of it sounds like a good idea for the town to do. Less townies dead is the overall goal, and lynchees are usually townie. This is a counterproductive strategy though as it allows the scum to survive as well and do bad things to the town at night. Lynching is a town’s main, and usually only, weapon. To not use it is a big detriment to the town effort. This is especially true in a cult game, and cult undertones are present in this game.

Arjos continues to push my lynch based on this false reasoning, until I let on more about my role and Lazy and I “team up” on the Ishmael lynch. It is no longer likely that Lazy or I will be lynched this day, so to try to save his partner, Arjos jumps on a really off statement by DaveShack in hopes of starting a counter wagon.

Cue Robbiecon who (with his second post of the game I believe) lends his support to the DaveShack lynch after DaveShack also votes for Ishmael:



Now Robbie could be strategically choosing his time to get back in the game to save Ishmael as well. This is a distinct possibility. It is also possible that both Arjos and Robbie are Ishmael's team members, and both are scum. Ishmael dutifully changes his vote to DaveShack as well in an attempt to save himself. On the face of it the vote is now a 3-3 tie, and it quite possibly has worked.

Neither Arjos nor Robbie pull back from the DaveShack vote after I point out the obvious flaw in their reasoning: DaveShack is too good and careful of a player to make such a blatantly scummy statement like he did if he were indeed scum.

Bottom line – I think Arjos and Robbie are quite scummy here. Arjos consistently making “good” arguments to try to get an innocent lynched, yet still staying in the background and not really being talkative or upfront in any other way. Robbie for his lurktastic performance and his swoop at the end to try to save one of his buddies. I’m fine with either one of them for the lynch, but have a better feel for Arjos, which is why I put him first.

Arjos – feel free to post more about yourself to help with this decision. Robbie you too.

Good. I share your instincts about Dave and also your reasoning behind Robbiecons' vote as a last ditch vote to save Ishmael. For that reason I figure Robbiecon is most suspect.

[BSmith]

What about Arjos - what do you think of him?

[Arjos]

I didn't vote Ishmael, because his case, was a mutual OMGUS between him and Lazy...
Tbh I saw it as townies having a go at eachother...

Dave has been acting funny since he got revived, 'til last phase I thought he was converted and somehow controlled: his votes had such a "made up" feeling...

[BSmith]

Let's talk about you, shall we? Anything you would like to say in your defense? Tell me why we shouldn't lynch you tomorrow.

[Arjos]

You already twisted all my reasonable votes...
I followed my logic and once trusted Monty, because he made plausible claims and didn't see any reason not to give him credit...

I just happened to be on the wrong side of a good lynch, which if you ask me had a flimsy case...

[robbiecon]

To be honest, I had been considering taking my vote off DaveShack. I had been thinking about the fact that he had been revived this game, and I don't know whether or not revived people tend to be the same role, or different, but I still felt like something was odd about it. I voted him because I thought that himself and Lazy McCrow were in cahoots, but I see now that I was wrong.

I had thought that Ishmael voting for Lazy again was a fair enough vote, and I had looked through his posts and didn't originally see anything odd. But now I see that his first vote for Lazy McCrow seemed to be a nice subtle bandwagon. After all any lynch will do.

It also appears as though my vote does NOT count in a regular lynch, only for No Lynch, unless there's a tiebreaker out there.

It's evident that BSmith and Lazy McCrow are not in cahoots, and I'm pretty sure I know why DaveShack's votes were placed as they turned out.

Which only leaves me and Arjos for you to choose. And it ain't me you're lookin' for babe.

[Visor]

Round over, calculating.

BSmith had a headache that was solved when a sledgehammer was driven through his face.

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Summary of events:

BSmith has been killed.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

He was a member of the TOWN

Alive: 4/10
5. LazyMcCrow
8. Arjos
9. Robbiecon
10. DaveShack

Dead 6/10:
3. Nightbringer (Lover), committed suicide N1.
1. Montmorency (Town), lynched D2.
2. atheotes (Town), suicided D2.
4. SalmonSoil (Town), killed N3.
6. Ishmael (Mafia), lynched D4.
7. BSmith (Town), killed N4.


Time:

Tally:
1 Arjos (Robbiecon)

[Arjos]

Great, now I'm getting framed :S

Vote: robbiecon

And very sleazy power there...

[Visor]

Round ends in 24.5 hours from this post btw.

[DaveShack]

Ishmael's partner can't be Lazy McCrow, not after voting for him so many times.

Arjos or robbiecon? I think Arjos, but would like to hear final arguments.

[Montmorency]

This is the final lynch. Choose wisely...

[LazyMcCrow]

I know its not robbiecon. So did a mafia get reesussed on the first night!? - or is Arjos our man? I'll go with BSmiths instincts unless anyone can persuade me otherwise.
vote: Arjos

[LazyMcCrow]

This is the final lynch. Choose wisely...

Not necessarily

[Ishmael]

Not necessarily

Ha! Just because I was mafia, doesn't mean I wasn't correct, you dirty socialist fascist freedom-hating hippy necromancer .

[LazyMcCrow]

Ha! Just because I was mafia, doesn't mean I wasn't correct, you dirty socialist fascist freedom-hating hippy necromancer .

Just because you were mafia doesn't mean you weren't correct.... that's true.

....but you weren't.

[Ishmael]

I don't see why you're bothering to back-pedal after you all but admitted to being the Communist in your previous post - it seems pretty evident the town is happy to win with you (if that's possible, of course).