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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Asians are introvert silent guys who are good at maths and Starcraft and frying shrimps. What you English call Asians are Pakistani's and they aren't really good at anything except growing impressive beards and holding weird signs. Sometimes they drive taxi's but most live on welfare.
    Ugh, I don't like this but I laughed. Most Pakistani's I've met are great people, maybe the quality increases with distance from Pakistan, what do I know? Corruption when left unchecked and treated with impunity will metastasize; irrespective of the ethnic background of the "corruptees". It's my new word for the day, which I've invented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg View Post
    Ugh, I don't like this but I laughed. Most Pakistani's I've met are great people, maybe the quality increases with distance from Pakistan, what do I know? Corruption when left unchecked and treated with impunity will metastasize; irrespective of the ethnic background of the "corruptees". It's my new word for the day, which I've invented.
    Very nice indeed

    Only nineteen percent of Pakistanis have a negative view of Al Qaeda and by default the Taliban, whilst seventy-five percent wish to see Sharia law implemented. British-born Muslims make an estimated four hundred thousand trips a year to Pakistan, where as many as thirty threats against Britain are being monitored at any given time.
    Thirty-three percent of Muslim students in Britain think killing in the name of Islam is permissible. Only thirty-seven percent oppose the introduction of Sharia law and only twenty-five percent oppose the creation of a worldwide Muslim caliphate.
    MI5 believe there are up to four thousand potential terrorists and thirteen thousand Al Qaeda sympathisers living in Britain. The CIA devotes an astonishing forty percent of their anti-terrorist homeland security operations against suspects not in Afghanistan or Waziristan, but in Britain itself — a country described by one CIA operative as “a swamp of Jihadis.”
    Barack Obama’s counter-terrorist advisor Bruce Riedel recently stated: “The British Pakistani community is recognised as probably Al Qaeda’s best mechanism for launching an attack against North America.”

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    twenty-five percent oppose the creation of a worldwide Muslim caliphate.
    Meh, this bit's abit less impactful, I'm sure you would find the same statistics if you asked any group if they oppose the idea of thier religion or country taking over the world. I dont dispute the rest though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    Meh, this bit's abit less impactful, I'm sure you would find the same statistics if you asked any group if they oppose the idea of thier religion or country taking over the world. I dont dispute the rest though.
    The rest is more than enough imho, islam is a cancer.

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    The rest is more than enough imho, islam is a cancer.
    Than cut it out: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012...tal-war-islam/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Only nineteen percent of Pakistanis have a negative view of Al Qaeda and by default the Taliban, whilst seventy-five percent wish to see Sharia law implemented. British-born Muslims make an estimated four hundred thousand trips a year to Pakistan, where as many as thirty threats against Britain are being monitored at any given time.
    Thirty-three percent of Muslim students in Britain think killing in the name of Islam is permissible. Only thirty-seven percent oppose the introduction of Sharia law and only twenty-five percent oppose the creation of a worldwide Muslim caliphate.
    When I googled that statement, I found some "British nationalists" site and some site called "angry white dude". But no source for those figures. What is the original source of those statistics, please?
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    When I googled that statement, I found some "British nationalists" site and some site called "angry white dude". But no source for those figures. What is the original source of those statistics, please?
    Daily Telegraph that one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Daily Telegraph that one
    ...The daily Telegraph has a reputation of being biased against damn near everyone.
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    ...The daily Telegraph has a reputation of being biased against damn near everyone.
    That means they're the only ones you can trust.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    ...The daily Telegraph has a reputation of being biased against damn near everyone.
    Good company than, but these figures come from you own governement. Yes it's that bad.

    In America it isn't any different dear american posters, what is real here is real with you as well. Even Sweden doesn't have it dispite being oh so very flexible.
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    Unfortunately the sexual exploitation of young poor women and girls is common place around the world. In some cities in England it seems to be a group of men of Pakistani origin who are doing this. In other parts of the country, and the world, other groups exploit young women similarly. Albanian sex traffickers are a major problem in much of Europe. I dare say that if you were to examine the sex trade in South East Asia, you would see a majority of 40-60 year old European, American and Australian men paying for the sexual services of young girls.

    Of course it's important to target the groups who do this in each context. However I think there are several elephants in several rooms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    ...The daily Telegraph has a reputation of being biased against damn near everyone.
    Did they just make those figures up then?
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    [linguistic aside]

    Quote Originally Posted by ICantSpellDawg View Post
    irrespective of the ethnic background of the "corruptees". It's my new word for the day, which I've invented.
    A bold attempt, but not quite original. The Corpus of Contemporary American includes two instances of corruptee:
    • In order to have corruption in these unions, you need a corrupter and a corruptee -- we were the former and UNOC was the latter.
    • There is a corrupter and a corruptee involved in every bribe, and developed nations need to take the issue more seriously


    And Google returns an estimate of 23,300 hits for "corruptee." Small, but present nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ja'chyra View Post
    What, so a girl of, say for example, 18-20 goes out and gets laid she's a whore? Or maybe just gets a bad rep?

    Shame on anyone who thinks this, she is just a girl doing what she wants with her body when she is old enough to make up her own mind. "Let he without sin" to quote another useless, in my mind and without wanting to cause offend to those who believe, religion.
    You quoted it, so it's not useless - you obviously think the lesson should be taken on board.

    Does it matter that these men are Muslims? I don't know, Muslims are Christians or "post Christians" - they have a different concept of morality, social behaviour, and most importantly Sin.

    A Christian would say that no matter the Sin someone has committed, you shold not Sin against them - and that all Sins are equally painful for God. The motif in Islam is the older "scale" where your sins are weighed.

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    No, it's blaming the rape victims for not being pure enough.

    It's shaming girls for an act that we exalt boys for

    By your definition of slut, 90% of fathers instruct their sons to be sluts

    I don't know why I am surprised. Stupid is as stupid does.
    rvg presumably doesn't have any daughters, sisters, or cousins.

    You are absolutely right though - it takes two to tango and what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    rvg presumably doesn't have any daughters, sisters, or cousins.

    You are absolutely right though - it takes two to tango and what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
    You're wrong, of course.
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    I think people exaggerate the double standard on that stuff.

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