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I don't care if it does take until 2015/6 or whenever to release the mod as the forum is entertainment itself. It is the only non sports/news website I check pretty much daily so no 'let down' here.
I don't care if it does take until 2015/6 or whenever to release the mod as the forum is entertainment itself. It is the only non sports/news website I check pretty much daily so no 'let down' here.
Originally Posted by DaciaJC:
Insider info. Sorry, can't compromise my sources.
Then like any true scientist I am going to have to discount your theory until the sources can be confirmed. Not that it matters. Its all a bit of fun as Olly said.Insider info. Sorry, can't compromise my sources.
I am sorry to hear the Gaza campaign has been abandoned. It seemed like a good idea to test-run EB2, but I understand that without someone pushing for it, it turned into a timesink.
yea good luck releasing a stable mod without alpha or beta testing with a wide range of configurations beforehand. Developers dont do that for fun you know. This will be more of a mess than EB1 for years after 'release', if it even gets to that.
I am in no way saying this as an insult, as I used to be a very big fan of EB, but this project is pretty much vapourware. Last update on the website was over 1 1/2 years ago, previews and updates are constantly dwindling. We're down to maybe seeing a couple of WIP models/textures being tweeted. Its signs like these that reaffirm what many others believe as well, that this project will most likely not be completed.
i do keep checking back every few months in hopes that someone with proper understanding of software development has taken the reins.
go ahead and tell me that its the historical research and that it takes time but many people accomplish more in 3-4 years and yes many do it for free.
...but hopefully I'm wrong, because I would like to play a game like EB2.
I am in no way saying this as an insult, as I used to be a very big fan of EB, but this project is pretty much vapourware. Last update on the website was over 1 1/2 years ago, previews and updates are constantly dwindling. We're down to maybe seeing a couple of WIP models/textures being tweeted. Its signs like these that reaffirm what many others believe as well, that this project will most likely not be completed.
i do keep checking back every few months in hopes that someone with proper understanding of software development has taken the reins.
go ahead and tell me that its the historical research and that it takes time but many people accomplish more in 3-4 years and yes many do it for free.
...but hopefully I'm wrong, because I would like to play a game like EB2.
Uhh, the last large preview was approximately 4 months back revealing Naebatea (sp?). We all know Tux has been working his 
off on some of the eye candy for the mod and there have actually been a lot of limited visual previews over the last few months. It is most likely scripting and coding that is slowing the release down (as EB has always been at the forefront of mods which test engine limits) but I have no doubt that the mod will see light of day sometime in the near future overseen by the current team. This is their labor of love and it doesn't deserve such pessimism.
off on some of the eye candy for the mod and there have actually been a lot of limited visual previews over the last few months. It is most likely scripting and coding that is slowing the release down (as EB has always been at the forefront of mods which test engine limits) but I have no doubt that the mod will see light of day sometime in the near future overseen by the current team. This is their labor of love and it doesn't deserve such pessimism.I think this verges on trolling, frankly. What possible purpose could there be for coming onto the site to write what is (for all claims that it is not) insulting/derogatory and misinformed (as Brave Brave Sir Robin pointed out) drivel. There are alot of new and integral game-play mechanisms and the coding for all of that, the many, many all new units and other models (at a level commensurate with the EB team's standards).... these were always going to quieten things down in terms of progress reports.
I have little doubt, unlike the "many others" (weasel words) and yourself, that EB2 is alive and kicking. I have seen nothing that has given me any reason to doubt it.
I have little doubt, unlike the "many others" (weasel words) and yourself, that EB2 is alive and kicking. I have seen nothing that has given me any reason to doubt it.
Im sorry i didnt realize that this forum was for praises only.
And if you are really that interested in who else thinks that this may be vapourware, please add me on steam and I will forward you names. Or maybe we could start a poll here? But i wouldn't think that would be appropriate.
A good quality game, even mods, will last the test of time as long as they release. Games such as alpha centauri or Moo2 still remain one of my favourite titles. We still have EB battles once in a while at our LANs, but have some gripes with the RTW engine that the 2nd iteration(M2TW) has resolved. For example the use of same textures for all soldiers in a unit, and wacky glitches with phalanx units.
Call me a troll and ill politely ask you to pull your head out of your ass. Not sure if you know the meaning of insulting/derogatory. Look up vapourware while you're at it too. Last preview I can find was almost 6 months ago(03-31-12, 15:16). Yes, I am pessimistic, but I dont doubt the quality of their work.
Anyways, like I said before, I hope EB2 releases whenever that may be.
And if you are really that interested in who else thinks that this may be vapourware, please add me on steam and I will forward you names. Or maybe we could start a poll here? But i wouldn't think that would be appropriate.
A good quality game, even mods, will last the test of time as long as they release. Games such as alpha centauri or Moo2 still remain one of my favourite titles. We still have EB battles once in a while at our LANs, but have some gripes with the RTW engine that the 2nd iteration(M2TW) has resolved. For example the use of same textures for all soldiers in a unit, and wacky glitches with phalanx units.
Call me a troll and ill politely ask you to pull your head out of your ass. Not sure if you know the meaning of insulting/derogatory. Look up vapourware while you're at it too. Last preview I can find was almost 6 months ago(03-31-12, 15:16). Yes, I am pessimistic, but I dont doubt the quality of their work.
Anyways, like I said before, I hope EB2 releases whenever that may be.
Originally Posted by Elthore:
Im sorry i didnt realize that this forum was for praises only.
It is, but it also offers a means for fans to offer constructive criticism to the team (and each other). The forums is a great way to discuss facts by presenting arguements in a constructive manner as well as resources to support or refute claims.Im sorry i didnt realize that this forum was for praises only.
I can recognise your impatience in between previews, which I share with you as a fan and not a team member. However, it is important to always understand that the team has real life commitments which perhaps take away time from modding. There's no doubt of the quality and skill of the EB team and you cannot disagree with the quality of their previews, however these things do take time.
Originally Posted by Elthore:
I am in no way saying this as an insult, as I used to be a very big fan of EB, but this project is pretty much vapourware. Last update on the website was over 1 1/2 years ago, previews and updates are constantly dwindling. We're down to maybe seeing a couple of WIP models/textures being tweeted. Its signs like these that reaffirm what many others believe as well, that this project will most likely not be completed..
I disagree, however I respect that this is your opinion. Enough members are active on these forums, twitter and in the frontroom (etc) to suggest that the mod is indeed being worked on. These members (as I'm lead to believe) have their own hidden sub forum dedicated to EBII's development. I believe the project will be completed, when will it be in an entirely different question. Putting a 'release date' on a project would only dissapoint fans should the tight schedule not be met, and cause unnecessary team grief and stress (after all it is a free fan mod!). I am in no way saying this as an insult, as I used to be a very big fan of EB, but this project is pretty much vapourware. Last update on the website was over 1 1/2 years ago, previews and updates are constantly dwindling. We're down to maybe seeing a couple of WIP models/textures being tweeted. Its signs like these that reaffirm what many others believe as well, that this project will most likely not be completed..
Originally Posted by Elthore:
i do keep checking back every few months in hopes that someone with proper understanding of software development has taken the reins. go ahead and tell me that its the historical research and that it takes time but many people accomplish more in 3-4 years and yes many do it for free.
The team is always looking for help, if you have spare time (which is the basis of this mod, 'spare time from RL') the team are always looking for people to showcase their modding/scripting/skinning/research skills to help them out.i do keep checking back every few months in hopes that someone with proper understanding of software development has taken the reins. go ahead and tell me that its the historical research and that it takes time but many people accomplish more in 3-4 years and yes many do it for free.
Originally Posted by Elthore:
i do keep checking back every few months in hopes that someone with proper understanding of software development has taken the reins.
Judging by some of the announcements about tools and updates, the team understands software development quite well. They just prefer to limit the number of releases and do most of the work in their private forum.i do keep checking back every few months in hopes that someone with proper understanding of software development has taken the reins.
Your message may not be intended as an insult, but it does come across as hostile. I agree it's gone (too) quiet here, but this is not the right way to ask for more releases.
Originally Posted by Elthore:
yea good luck releasing a stable mod without alpha or beta testing with a wide range of configurations beforehand. Developers dont do that for fun you know. This will be more of a mess than EB1 for years after 'release', if it even gets to that.
That's why we would release an alpha or beta at all: so people other than us may test it.yea good luck releasing a stable mod without alpha or beta testing with a wide range of configurations beforehand. Developers dont do that for fun you know. This will be more of a mess than EB1 for years after 'release', if it even gets to that.
Originally Posted by :
I am in no way saying this as an insult, as I used to be a very big fan of EB, but this project is pretty much vapourware. Last update on the website was over 1 1/2 years ago, previews and updates are constantly dwindling. We're down to maybe seeing a couple of WIP models/textures being tweeted. Its signs like these that reaffirm what many others believe as well, that this project will most likely not be completed.
Last release was the 17th. I am in no way saying this as an insult, as I used to be a very big fan of EB, but this project is pretty much vapourware. Last update on the website was over 1 1/2 years ago, previews and updates are constantly dwindling. We're down to maybe seeing a couple of WIP models/textures being tweeted. Its signs like these that reaffirm what many others believe as well, that this project will most likely not be completed.
Originally Posted by :
i do keep checking back every few months in hopes that someone with proper understanding of software development has taken the reins.
I suppose you have this proper understanding of software engineering, do you? So tell me, then: how would this "fix" things? Please don't give me generic, non specific, vague hand wavy, dreamland fantasy story in which proper planning and meticulous execution somehow combine to magically present the solution to any problem. I've heard those love stories before (I attended classes, you see) and like any good love story they are all a misty eyed, wishful, self-deceiving lie. No Mr. Right does not exist, there will be no knight in shiny armour, and software engineering only ever hits 20/20 when blessed with liberal amounts of hindsight.i do keep checking back every few months in hopes that someone with proper understanding of software development has taken the reins.
Originally Posted by Elthore:
Im sorry i didnt realize that this forum was for praises only.
Well luckily it's not. But by the same token, whoever wrote that your post was drivel is free not to praise you either. Im sorry i didnt realize that this forum was for praises only.
Originally Posted by :
I dont doubt the quality of their work.
I admit my English may be fallible and I may be reading more into/between the lines than you intended but this is not how I would have understood your post hadn't you posted your little "disclaimer" there.I dont doubt the quality of their work.
EB 2 must be out by Thanksgiving or the masses will riot! 
It undoubtledly will be, since you kindly didn't put a year on that.
welcome to the forum!
welcome to the forum!
Originally Posted by Spoonman:
EB 2 must be out by Thanksgiving or the masses will riot!
wouldn't that be a bit extreme? EB 2 must be out by Thanksgiving or the masses will riot!
frankly, EB's mod team should continue with it's policy on release dates: It's done when it's done, as many here have already said.
Originally Posted by Ibrahim:
frankly, EB's mod team should continue with it's policy on release dates: It's done when it's done, as many here have already said.
Something about this post and EB II in general reminds me about Duke Nukem Forever... frankly, EB's mod team should continue with it's policy on release dates: It's done when it's done, as many here have already said.
Ah well, that one got made eventually, so we still have hope!
Originally Posted by Ibrahim:
wouldn't that be a bit extreme?
frankly, EB's mod team should continue with it's policy on release dates: It's done when it's done, as many here have already said.
(Sound of teeth gritting) I will explain why in years to come when I am allowed.wouldn't that be a bit extreme?
frankly, EB's mod team should continue with it's policy on release dates: It's done when it's done, as many here have already said.
Originally Posted by Vilkku92:
Something about this post and EB II in general reminds me about Duke Nukem Forever...
Ah well, that one got made eventually, so we still have hope!
Never fear, this mod will not die.Something about this post and EB II in general reminds me about Duke Nukem Forever...
Ah well, that one got made eventually, so we still have hope!
Originally Posted by Brennus:
Never fear, this mod will not die.
I think he was referring to the fact that the game took too long, and when it was released, it was an anticlimax...I think Never fear, this mod will not die.
I'm totally onboard whenever the EB II ship sails into port. To all those posters who were/are concerned about development delays I'd like to direct you to the EBNOM sub-forum...
Originally Posted by Ibrahim:
I think he was referring to the fact that the game took too long, and when it was released, it was an anticlimax...I think
Actually I was just referring to the game simply taking very long, not it proving a disappointment in the end. I'm too much of an optimist for that. I think he was referring to the fact that the game took too long, and when it was released, it was an anticlimax...I think
There really should be a smiley for shrugging...
Originally Posted by Vilkku92:
There really should be a smiley for shrugging...
We have one, actually. Just type : shrug : without the spaces:There really should be a smiley for shrugging...
Originally Posted by Brennus:
Never fear, this mod will not die.
That's what we like to hear !Never fear, this mod will not die.
Keep up the good work lads !
Satyros
Well we now have our first Roman building.
Originally Posted by Brennus:
Well we now have our first Roman building.
With some very nice custom graffiti on... Well we now have our first Roman building.
Right, Brennus?
Romanes Eunt Domus
Depending on the government type
Depending on the government type
Mithridates, I really wasn't expecting him to put it on the model. I like it though.
Maern, Romani eta domun.
Maern, Romani eta domun.
This is the kind of cool stuff that one would expect to see in a project like this. It is brilliant, more so because government type is taken into consideration. Shared it with non EB ppl and the totally got it too. Brilliant, guys!
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