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    Default Re: Was Hitler a christian? and atheist morallity

    Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
    really, so say if a atheist were to believe in god? or that human have value, things like right to life, killing is bad etc etc, as hitler and darwin point out, these things are inconstant with evolution/atheism. I have shown over and over on this thread.
    "Atheism" simply means the denial of the existence of a divine being. There is absolutely nothing more to it. There's no way to base anything at all on atheism, since it doesn't contain anything.

    There are, however, an abundance of philosophies one can be, and will be, influenced by, from both religious and non-religious philosophers. Social darwinism is one such philosophy, but it is not one I subscribe to, obviously. And I believe you are confusing "darwinism", which is simply an explanation of what has happened in nature during the past few million years, and "social darwinism", which is the idea that the former is a good model for society to follow(most famously used by the nazis of course).

    You have "shown" a grand total of absolutely nothing in this thread, I might add. All you have done is post long, ranting and quite frankly utterly boring copy/pasted text. Are you seriously expecting anyone to read posts that repeats rubbish text like "The Jeffrey Dahmer DVD Documentary" over and over?

    Put your thoughts in proper form, then someone might be interested in reading them. Heck, someone might even bother engaging you in a discussion!

    Who is the bias one? scared of bible verse?
    Scared of bible verses...? That makes no sense whatsoever. I am unfamiliar with the bible, and I'm generally completely uninterested in what it says. It also does not hold any water as an argument to me, given that I am an non-believer.

    I guess it would be comparable to a market-liberal reading a wall of text full of quotes from The Capital.

    But in no way do I attempt to downplay the fact that I believe the right-wing christian resistance to Islam to be utter garbage, completely devoid of logic and generally unintelligent. That, however, also means that it has a great potential for being humerous to people like me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
    As shown, you have not understood my argument for many pages. When I quote hitler to back up hitlers beliefs. I care not you see that as copy paste.It to me is better than what all others are doing, making claims with no support. i have written everything on my own, besides quotes or facts or references.Do you care to back up any claim you make with anything besides what you believe to be true.? So when people claim hitler was christian, I dont exspalin why I think he wasn't I let him, meanwhile those that claim he was, give no support for it. As far as my other point, I have typed about a dozen diffident ways. Are you not also the one who copied a wall of text of a atheist website.
    I have read your cherry picked quotes on Hitler, yes.

    I have also based a university C-thesis on him when I read history. All in all I have read maybe 10 or so books solely about him, and another 100 or so books about Nazi Germany at large. Aside from that I subscribe to not one but two historical magazines, and tend to watch historical documentaries more than anything else. This aside, I am Austrian, and have had a vested interest in Museums, so I think I have been to most of the bigger ones in Europe.

    So no, your cherry picked quotes just aren't very impressive. Actually, some of the ones you use to "strenghten" your case makes me wonder about your reading comprehension. Or maybe you are just lazy and throw them in from a ready list of: "Debate atheists for dummies".

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    All these Hitler quotes are so much more applicable to the cause celebre of the time, Eugenics

    It's not some type of atheism bible

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