responding to common objections to bible

[Rhyfelwyr]

For all the abuse that total relism gets, the stuff some other people are coming up with here is comedy gold.

Everybody is rubbishing his (admittedly rubbish) sources, and then with a straight face they come out and quote Landover Baptist Church as a reliable source on Christian doctrine.

For those not aware, Landover Baptist Church is a troll website parodying hardcore Evangelical Protestants.

But don't let me get in the way of the circle-jerk...

[The Stranger]

i think it was only brenus, and from my one encounter with him, he might be the atheist version of Total Relism... so ye XD

[Brenus]

“For those not aware, Landover Baptist Church is a troll website parodying hardcore Evangelical Protestants.” I was not aware of this (why should I?) as what is said there looks really like is said but non parodying Evangelical Protestants.
Still, the place of women in the middle Age by the church is developed by the theologian Thomas Aquinas: males are the perfect form and female children are simply defective males. Or Read St Augustin.

“i think it was only brenus, and from my one encounter with him, he might be the atheist version of Total Relism... so ye” When? I don’t remember any encounter with you, but I might have, so can you give details, please…

[Rhyfelwyr]

“For those not aware, Landover Baptist Church is a troll website parodying hardcore Evangelical Protestants.” I was not aware of this (why should I?)

The fact that you couldn't tell that it was a rather outrageous parody site sums up how much you know about Christian doctrine.

btw you also never delivered when I asked you for those quotes earlier. You seemed quite confident with the rhetoric but if this is the quality of your sources I think it was a bit misplaced.

[Hax]

Why do you feel a need to defend him? Idiocy might be contagious.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Hypocrisy is worth pointing out.

[Brenus]

“The fact that you couldn't tell that it was a rather outrageous parody site sums up how much you know about Christian doctrine.” I know enough of the “Christian” doctrine to know that there is more than one. You, on contrary, seem to think there is only one. The place of women in the history of the multiple aspect of this generic religious movement can be easily seen, without even a careful and long attention.
And to be really open about it, the stupidity of this text that matched what I can watch on Evangelist TV (the rare time when I by chance listen -shortly-) so I didn't doubt it was an authentic site, a little bit like the one from the guy who wanted to burn some samples of the Koran. This will teach me a lesson.

“btw you also never delived when I asked you for those quotes earlier. You seemed quite confident with the rhetoric but if this is the quality of your sources I think it was a bit misplaced.” I am confident as I studied Religions. I didn’t felt the need to answer as, as I said before, you do not need careful, long and painful studies to acknowledge the place of the women in societies under “Christian” rules, whatever the “doctrine” says. The opinion and statement of the Religious Politicians as Tertullien (using St Paul), St Augustin (Who has a woman turns away from God) and Thomas Aquinos do not need vast exegeses. Remember Eve…
She was the temptation to which the man who finds it difficult to resist. She, herself, is tempted by the devil in the form of snake, serpent associated with sex and demonized by the Church. The woman is worthy of hell for the Church that does not forgive her to succumb to the temptation of the forbidden fruit consumption and so to have result in loss of the garden of Eden.

You want reference: In French
« saint Paul, le théologien favori du Vatican (surtout aujourd'hui ), d'écrire que « la femme est un corps sans tête », et à saint Jérôme de dire que « la volupté avec une femme est un crime à classer juste après l'homicide ». Même au cours du XIXe siècle, pourtant plus éclairé, le prêtre catholique Lamennais a affirmé que « la femme est une statue vivante de la stupidité parce qu'en la faisant d'un reste de limon, Dieu en a oublié l'intelligence »
St Jerome : Rien n'est plus infâme que le mari qui aime sa femme comme une maîtresse : il commet le péché d'adultère »
In English:
Saint Paul, favorite theologian of the Vatican (especially today), to write that "the woman is a body without a head", and St. Jerome said that ' the voluptuousness with a woman is a crime to classify just after the killing. Even during the 19th century, yet more enlightened, the Catholic priest Lamennais stated that "the woman is a living statue of stupidity because by of a rest of silt, God have forgotten intelligence". St Jerome: nothing is more infamous than the husband who loves his wife as a mistress: he commits the sin of adultery. Women take from God the love of her husband…

Now, you can say that these people who spoke and wrote Latin, and most of them Greek, were not as good as you are to define the real meaning of Christianity…
You might be right.
But the fact is the reason why during the Council of Trent the Catholic Dogma reinforced and imposed the Single Status of the priests, the fact that Women couldn’t give the Holly Sacraments and couldn’t be priest was based on their opinion and their analyse on the texts they were able (most of them) to read in the original copy in Greek or Latin.

We do know now that the Eve and the Snake story is a copy of a Sumerian Legend, Enki and Ninhursag, 1500 before the Bible. We do know now that Yahweh’s actions looked very similar to the one of the Goddess Ninhursag.
From the Encyclopedia Encarta, used by thousands students in France:
"The biblical account of the creation of Adam and Eve differs only in a few details of many other similar myths of the ancient Middle East and elsewhere. Similar themes also appear in ancient Mesopotamian sources such as the epic of Gilgamesh, dating from about 1800-1700 BC.”

But they didn't.

[Hax]

Remind me, why do we care so much about the so-called plagiarism in Christianity? Every​ religion does this.

[Ironside]

Remind me, why do we care so much about the so-called plagiarism in Christianity? Every​ religion does this.

Because if you claim that the Bible is the word of God, then it's a problem if the demon/devil/whatever idolatry had access to the information long before the true believers. If nothing else, it's a bit embarrasing for God to lose the initiative that much.

If you consider the Bible as a divinely inspired collection of myths, then it's a much smaller matter.

Edit: In relation to Brenus.
Don't forget the importance if the flesh of Christ is leavened or not.