I am now a double drop-out

[Fragony]

Horrie I am proud of you, I totally share your disregard of the academic world. Not that am not educated, but they are mostly idiots.

[HoreTore]

Horrie I am proud of you, I totally share your disregard of the academic world. Not that am not educated, but they are mostly idiots.

Don't worry Fragolini, I'm not done with my own education just yet. I plan to add at least natural science to my list of subjects I can teach, and I'll probably attempt another masters degree at some point... But next time, I'll be a bit more careful and study the reading plans beforehand. If I see Bordieou on the reading list, I'll choose another one.

@Husar: With my smashing good looks, of course?

[Fragony]

Mincing my words was pure torture. I may be an idiot but I am not stupid, and I simply can't take most academics seriously. If that is arrogant so be it.

[Papewaio]

"A particular highlight was the article/book we got explaining the origins and ideas of human rights. One page 5, it concluded that "human rights exist by use of language alone and to serve the bourgeois class". Suffice to say, I didn't bother reading the rest of that book."

I can find in nature electromagnetic forces, hormones that make us more connected yet more racist and genes that express our sex.

Human rights on the other hand I cannot find a force, hormone or gene that makes it so.

Human rights are a social creation. Are the rich and powerful bound to the same rules as the middle class? Don't they get better lawyers, deals and access to pardons if they are caught? Aren't those in poverty focusing on survival? We love stories where humans are put in socially abhorrent scenarios and have to fight to survive.

So is human rights real or just a social construct for those who are in control of their own lives but not society ie the middle class?

[HoreTore]

Are the rich and powerful bound to the same rules as the middle class?

Human rights are a set of rules for states, not individuals(as opposed to the genocide convention, which is for individuals).

[Papewaio]

...as opposed to the genocide convention, which is for individuals.

I always thought genocide required more then one... Either actor or victim.

[Montmorency]

"'...What little information we have about the old times, the pittance of data which the Butlerians left us, Korba has brought it for you. Start with the Genghis Khan.' 'Ghenghis . . . Khan? Was he of the Sardaukar, m'Lord?' 'Oh, long before that. He killed . . . perhaps four million.' 'He must've had formidable weaponry to kill that many, Sire. Lasbeams, perhaps, or . . .' 'He didn't kill them himself, Stil. He killed the way I kill, by sending out his legions. There's another emperor I want you to note in passing--a Hitler. He killed more than six million. Pretty good for those days.' 'Killed . . . by his legions?' Stilgar asked. 'Yes.' 'Not very impressive statistics, m'Lord.' "

It's all relative, as you know.

[Montmorency]

You only get respect if you finish your PhD thesis and then drop out before presenting/defending it because the establishment, man.

How are you supposed to get on a sarcastic independent lecture-track now?

You're a lightweight and we're disappointed in you.

[The Stranger]

Mincing my words was pure torture. I may be an idiot but I am not stupid, and I simply can't take most academics seriously. If that is arrogant so be it.

luckily nobody takes you serious either ;)

[a completely inoffensive name]

According to this wonderful book I am reading, post-modernism has been a joke from the start. Paul de Man was a fraud and a Nazi, Heidegger was a Nazi, Feyerabend was, well, let his words speak for themselves:

"There is not one common sense, there are many...Nor is there one way of knowing, science; there are many such ways, and before they were ruined by Western civilization they were effective in the sense that they kept people alive and made their existence comprehensible."

Post-modernism is believing yourself to be wise by claiming that ignorance is universal and that progress is impossible because....world wars happen.

People who try to talk about "seeing things from the perspective of the minority/oppressed" act as if no one was doing just that before some 20th Century French philosophers told us that people can see things differently therefore absolutely nothing is the same from person to person.

[HoreTore]

"There is not one common sense, there are many...Nor is there one way of knowing, science; there are many such ways, and before they were ruined by Western civilization they were effective in the sense that they kept people alive and made their existence comprehensible."

Hah! One of the main reason I quit was because I feared for my sanity if I had to sit through yet another lecture where the professor droned on about how superduperawesome this "indigenous knowledge"(or ignorance, as it's usually called) is.

Jon Elster once noted that the only use of post-modernism is to legitimize quaks in the "alternative medicine" industry. He's got a point.

Still, I've got a worse one than your quote: I don't have the exact wording, but Bruno Latoure noted in a response to a british medical team who had examined some mummy and determined tuberculosis as the cause of death, that it was meaningless to say that he died of tuberculosis, because the term didn't exist until the 18th century... Thus, you couldn't say he died of tuberculosis.

It's like the stupidity leaps from the page.

[Husar]

Why does one study blabla if one does not like blabla?

There are plenty of useful sciences.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Hah! One of the main reason I quit was because I feared for my sanity if I had to sit through yet another lecture where the professor droned on about how superduperawesome this "indigenous knowledge"(or ignorance, as it's usually called) is.

Jon Elster once noted that the only use of post-modernism is to legitimize quaks in the "alternative medicine" industry. He's got a point.

Still, I've got a worse one than your quote: I don't have the exact wording, but Bruno Latoure noted in a response to a british medical team who had examined some mummy and determined tuberculosis as the cause of death, that it was meaningless to say that he died of tuberculosis, because the term didn't exist until the 18th century... Thus, you couldn't say he died of tuberculosis.

It's like the stupidity leaps from the page.

lol You could sum that whole sentence up with, "You don't know man, you weren't there man!"

I think this quote from Bruno Latoure comes from the same piece of :Daisy:

"Since the settlement of a controversy is the Cause of Nature's representation not the consequence, we can never use the outcome to explain how and why a controversy has been settled."

Obviously, nature is just giving us the answers we seek because we are defining the answer based on the question being asked. Thus, none of our answers are valid, and that's also why no scientist in the history of mankind has ever come across an answer that challenges his views or what we previously held to be true!

[CrossLOPER]

luckily nobody takes you serious either ;)

Doesn't stop him from endlessly trolling multiple sites for decades.

[Sarmatian]

Doesn't stop him from endlessly trolling multiple sites for decades.

I thought Frags was an .org exclusive, like our own flagship console title... Are you telling me he went cross-platform?

[Tellos Athenaios]

I thought Frags was an .org exclusive, like our own flagship console title... Are you telling me he went cross-platform?

Clearly you haven't been keeping yourself up to date with the latest Fragony developments. Now I will not pretend that I am fully up to date either, but I do recall that at the very least a My Little Pony edition has been tried -- and was swiftly banned.

[Fragony]

Doesn't stop him from endlessly trolling multiple sites for decades.

I post here and on the Dutch site Geenstijl, and that's about it, shut up and kiss me, or just shut your eastblock squarhead

[Greyblades]

I'm a year into an English literature course and i still dont know what post modernism is.