BR Reminder?

[Beskar]

The rules have not been 'Updated' there was a reminder they are there. If you read the rules, you will see the following to answer your question:

Nation and Religion Bashing

This occupation, a variant of trolling behaviour, deserves special mention. It is perfectly acceptable to take issue with a government or religious grouping, but we frown upon generalised insults.
Acceptable: "I can't stand the Lilliputian government's excessive use of hemp rope against innocents"
Unacceptable: " Lilliputians are small-minded pygmies"

Just remember that Respect thing we talked about. Would you like what you wrote said about your own nationality?

Religion is another powder keg. Please remember that we have patrons of all religions and none here, and that their beliefs are sincerely held. They are also very often very important to a person's self-image - literally "sacred" - and insults aimed at fellow believers (and unbelievers) provoke hurt and upset. There's nothing wrong with using historical and factual data to make a point, but with care please.

I hope this answers your question.

[Kadagar_AV]

The rules have not been 'Updated' there was a reminder they are there. If you read the rules, you will see the following to answer your question:


I hope this answers your question.

It does.

Sorry, I still have a hard time shaking off the last moderators impact.

MEH!! My bad, please lock or preferably delete thread.

[Hax]

How can one attack culture without attacking ethnicity

The two are not the same.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Actually, I thought it was ironic that Kadagar asked the question in the OP.

On some level, he has embodied the answer to his own question for months if not years.

He's taken shots at "USAnian" values, and ways of doing things -- in short, an attack on aspects of culture -- while using labels that make it clear that no particular US ethnicity is involved. The USA, being multi-ethnic, has a culture that superimposes (though never supplants) ethnic culture.

[Kadagar_AV]

Actually, I thought it was ironic that Kadagar asked the question in the OP.

On some level, he has embodied the answer to his own question for months if not years.

He's taken shots at "USAnian" values, and ways of doing things -- in short, an attack on aspects of culture -- while using labels that make it clear that no particular US ethnicity is involved. The USA, being multi-ethnic, has a culture that superimposes (though never supplants) ethnic culture.

I still find the rule problematic, as the line between ethnicity and culture at times are razor thin... Take gypsies as an example, or jews. Also, discussing racial traits would be.... problematic... no?

Would I be allowed to say that white guys sure seem to run worse than black guys? It's (kind of) an attack on ethnicity, but then a quick look at the olympics make it a fair point.

Is there a USAnian ethnicity? How many hundred years can you have a nation before you start talking ethnicity?

However, I think moderation works real well now, great even. Specially when you consider the 50 shades of grey that is the BR

[Beskar]

You want to know a secret, @Kadagar_AV ?

The way I do I moderation is like this. If you can make a thought-out logical and reasoned post, I will not give you an infraction. If you make a foolish error of judgement, you can usually catch yourself sometimes and edit it away, and I won't give you an infraction.

I would only give an infraction for foolishly-given statements that are obviously offensive and I will 'deduce' the nature of the spirit it is given. You are simply spiteful and hateful, trying to be as offensive as possible, I will point it out and give the infraction. If you simply badly worded something and it is clear you tried, I would/will message you pointing out where you went wrong and how to do it better next time and I may be lenient, perhaps just edit the post and/or give a warning, infraction still if really bad but I would attempt to assist you in my message.

I would avoid to be seen as being bias too, so I would never punish you for thinking red is the best colour, opposed to blue, for example. If a post is openly offensive to me myself. I would 'report' the post myself, then edit any major infringements, then I would have another moderator/admin review the post to cast any judgements upon it.

I would like/hope to think you are in safe-hands, if not, feel free to report me, even!

[Hax]

I still find the rule problematic, as the line between ethnicity and culture at times are razor thin... Take gypsies as an example, or jews. Also, discussing racial traits would be.... problematic... no?

I do not feel qualified to talk about the Roma, however...

Which Jews are you talking about?

It's funny to read stuff like this, partially because your reasoning seems to imply that globalisation and people mixing is a modern process, and that mixed marriages are a new phenomenon. However, a quick glance at the history of basically..anywhere reveals that through trade, or conquest, or for whatever other reason, people have been moving from one place to another for a very long time.

To use an example; when I was in Tallinn (Estonia) this summer, I was standing in the lobby of this hostel and I was talking to some random guy about how I'd been travelling through Estonia for some time, at which point he said that I wouldn't find any "true" Estonians in Tallinn. I asked him to specify what he meant exactly by saying that, especially when you look at Estonia's history, and especially when you consider that it was under German, Danish, Swedish, Polish-Lithuanian and Russian domination at different times in history.

Of course, this is just an example, but "even" nations that have never been dominated by any foreign power will have had ethnic mixing. It's been happening for a very long time and it will probably happen for a very long time as well. Cultural identification has nothing to do with "race" or "ethnicity" but with how people see themselves and others.

What is the difference between a Norwegian, Swede, a Dane, an Icelander and a Faroer?