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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    That would be Moshe Feiglin, then. As Husar said, it would help a lot if you actually read the stuff you're replying to.

    Feiglin is advocating clearing the Gaza strip of Arabs and repopulating the area with Jews. He defines all inhabitants on Gaza as enemy soldiers, and sees no reason not to kill them all. His logic is that since they voted in Hamas, everyone is a target. Hilariously, by that token there is no need at all to distinguish between Israeli citizens and Israeli soldiers.

    There is no doubt that Hamas is a loony bunch of genocidal maniacs. There is no doubt that the Israeli right is a loony bunch of genocidal maniacs.

    Why you choose to focus on one of those and ignore the other, is curious.


    Finally, Hamas launches their missiles knowing they will not kill anyone. IDF launches their missiles knowing they will kill someone.
    Yeah, and Hamas makes sure people get killed, that's why they launch them from area's where people are going to get killed, the more the better. Their greatest allies are sure to be there with a camara for juicy shots. In the meantime ISIS murdered more people in a few days than got killed since Israel's founding. But that isn't all that interesting, because not Israel. How people explain that for themselves I don't understand but I am not good at leftist logic, just don't see it.

    And sure there are Israeli idiots. They aren't all that liked but that is changing really fast, the violence bred a bit of a new generation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Yeah, and Hamas makes sure people get killed, that's why they launch them from area's where people are going to get killed, the more the better. Their greatest allies are sure to be there with a camara for juicy shots. In the meantime ISIS murdered more people in a few days than got killed since Israel's founding. But that isn't all that interesting, because not Israel. How people explain that for themselves I don't understand but I am not good at leftist logic, just don't see it.

    And sure there are Israeli idiots. They aren't all that liked but that is changing really fast, the violence bred a bit of a new generation.
    "They aren't all that liked"? Are you aware that Feiglin is essentially #2 in the ruling party there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    "They aren't all that liked"? Are you aware that Feiglin is essentially #2 in the ruling party there?
    Yeah there are nutjobs yeah. Wonder what drove them nuts. No I don't really. They alreadry were, but becomming an increasingly good proposel for those that really don't want to have to do anything with them. Who's fault is that really.

    i know knothing of Feiglin by the way, never heard of them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Yeah there are nutjobs yeah. Wonder what drove them nuts. No I don't really. They alreadry were, but becomming an increasingly good proposel for those that really don't want to have to do anything with them. Who's fault is that really.

    i know knothing of Feiglin by the way, never heard of them
    If you know nothing of Feiglin, why didn't you read up on him before responding to those who were commenting on him? Is it your habit to assume that anyone who hates Palestinians must therefore be a good person?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    If you know nothing of Feiglin, why didn't you read up on him before responding to those who were commenting on him? Is it your habit to assume that anyone who hates Palestinians must therefore be a good person?
    It's a lot easier to have strong opinions if you don't have any knowledge.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    It's a lot easier to have strong opinions if you don't have any knowledge.
    For Frag's information, Feiglin thinks Christians are even worse than Muslims.

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    For Frag's information, Feiglin thinks Christians are even worse than Muslims.
    So what he is right I grew up in the bible belt, I would have loved a wall and checkpoints at the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Yeah there are nutjobs yeah. Wonder what drove them nuts. No I don't really. They alreadry were, but becomming an increasingly good proposel for those that really don't want to have to do anything with them. Who's fault is that really.

    i know knothing of Feiglin by the way, never heard of them
    Funny how you do not extend the same kind of goodwill towards the Palestinians that you do towards the Israeli's. You excuse Israeli nutjobs, while you denounce all palestinians because of their nutjobs.

    As for the suggestion that "the left" only cares about Israel; when was the last time you went to a free west-Sahara rally? I've been to several, and I see plenty of my fellow lefties there. I see basically noone from the right there. Ditto for Sri Lanka, the Congo, Sudan, Kurdistan, etc. Tibet is an exception, maybe because of evil commies.

    It really is one of the worst "arguments" of all. It fails on every level.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Funny how you do not extend the same kind of goodwill towards the Palestinians that you do towards the Israeli's. You excuse Israeli nutjobs, while you denounce all palestinians because of their nutjobs.

    As for the suggestion that "the left" only cares about Israel; when was the last time you went to a free west-Sahara rally? I've been to several, and I see plenty of my fellow lefties there. I see basically noone from the right there. Ditto for Sri Lanka, the Congo, Sudan, Kurdistan, etc. Tibet is an exception, maybe because of evil commies.

    It really is one of the worst "arguments" of all. It fails on every level.
    I don't denounce them, I just put the blame somewhere else without excusing Israel from being somewhat harsh.

    Guess where, I probably don't have to say it here you know me well enough

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    I don't denounce them, I just put the blame somewhere else without excusing Israel from being somewhat harsh.

    Guess where, I probably don't have to say it here you know me well enough
    ....which is exactly my point, you excuse one bunch of loonies who are doing exactly the same as the ones you hate.

    All without even knowing who or what they are. Ignorance certainly is bliss.

    Blinded by hatred.
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    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    ....which is exactly my point, you excuse one bunch of loonies who are doing exactly the same as the ones you hate.

    All without even knowing who or what they are. Ignorance certainly is bliss.

    Blinded by hatred.
    I know a few really, I would love to see how you explain yourself to them. You know nothing.

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