IMMIGRATION thread

[Husar]

Of course there's a point: it pays to be prepared, it pays to make an effort. Taking the victim role typically won't work unless there are people capable of helping you out who takes pity on you; and in many cases, you are dead before that can happen.

How is that going to help now? Should they prepare now and for what?

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Here's a thought - if a people have a "cultural problem" forming a functioning state then those who flee are likely to export that cultural problem - something we see if countries in Europe today, in certain parts of the UK and especially in Scandinavia where they have allowed so many people in so quickly.

The weak response to the problem of illegal immigration encourages the belief in certain countries that we are soft (we are soft, but not as much as they think) and that encourages more people to come. Part of why the UK is currently fighting so hard to push back the Calais migrants is to disabuse them of the idea that the UK is a soft touch, or softer than France.

The open borders within mainland Europe at best mask the problem and at worse exacerbate it because if you can get ashore in Italy or Greece you can then travel throughout Europe until you get the UK, which is why all the illegals suddenly surface in Calais, it's the presence of a controlled border.