To Hijab or not to Hijab

[Pannonian]

That's what I'm saying. Saudi Arabia and Qatar (lesser extent) are Wahhabi states. Banning the headscarf (the hijab) is Islamophobic yes. No harm in it and not a symbol of discrimination in a global standard, just France apparently.

As for token parts, I don't know what you mean? Most men can't vote either, in fact only a small portion do in the country. These preachers preach these things because they are from places like Pakistan and were educated where - surprise surprise Saudi friggin Arabia. There's a clear distinction here between the organization of Islam you referred to before and the preachers preaching you once again bring up, which is weird that you brought up since you seem to know the difference between the two. So surely the violation of your constitution and human rights standards stems from the preachers and their financiers?

The only discrimination taking place is divorce process, and even that depends entirely on the comparative status of the couple. If dude is more powerful, he's favored naturally.

We should ban nonsense like the burka that interferes with the wellbeing of the general population. And any other cultural features that do the same. And anything else that is morally repugnant (such as FGM). If Islam mandates that sort of thing, fine. Let them practise it in countries that are historically Muslim. Not Britain.

[AE Bravo]

Ban the burqa, niqab, jilbab, fgm or whatever. No reason to ban the hijab, does not interfere with the well being of the general population just like a Sikh's turban doesn't. Harmless.

I know nobody brought up the hijab but I thought this was banned in France as well.

[Pannonian]

Ban the burqa, niqab, jilbab, fgm or whatever. No reason to ban the hijab, does not interfere with the well being of the general population just like a Sikh's turban doesn't. Harmless.

I have no idea what the other garments are. But stuff that covers the face is a no-no. Balaclava helmets aren't too popular nowadays either.

[Fragony]

I have no idea what the other garments are. But stuff that covers the face is a no-no. Balaclava helmets aren't too popular nowadays either.

Hijjab is just a headscarve that covers the hair.

[Brenus]

"I know nobody brought up the hijab but I thought this was banned in France as well." Only in public places: The scarf is banned for civil servants, as we have a law separating state and religions. No civil servant is allowed to wear (obvious) religious symbols. You can wear a small cross, David star, hand of Fatima or the little bird for the Protestants (as they were banned to wear a Cross by the Catholic Kings of France, they took a bird as symbol, and it stays).
Burkas are banned.
I think they banned in Belgium as well.

"Banning the headscarf (the hijab) is Islamophobic yes" But, but, you just said it is not a Islamic tenets.

I have no problem in "fear of Islam" (which what Islamophobia means. Arachnophobia doesn't mean you hate spiders, but you have a fear form spiders).
Islam is a frightening religion, based on racism, discrimination and violent expansion.
Well, it is more a Islamo-allergy than phobia in my case. Or a religions-allergy as I put all religions in the same bag, at least the mono-theistic ones. My knowledge of polytheistic ones is quite limited... Toooooo many of them.

"Most men can't vote either".True enough. They are dictatorships.

[AE Bravo]

"[B]"Banning the headscarf (the hijab) is Islamophobic yes" But, but, you just said it is not a Islamic tenets.

It's not. Necklaces, prayer beads, tattoos. A trend that keeps changing depending on where you are. Bumper sticker.

Burkas are insane, most countries in the middle east realize this. Can't wear one if you want to be taken seriously.

[Greyblades]

Burkas are insane, most countries in the middle east realize this. Can't wear one if you want to be taken seriously.

That is arguably why they make women wear them.

[Brenus]

"It's not." So banning them is not to be islamophobic.

[AE Bravo]

That is arguably why they make women wear them.

Obviously, for the few that do.

"It's not." So banning them is not to be islamophobic.

If I'm a baker and I refuse to make a gay couple cake for their wedding, I'm a homophobe. If I force a tranny to take off a wig I'm transphobic. It's simple, doesn't have to be a tenet to be a popular contemporary component of the religion.