IMMIGRATION thread

**Fragony** · 11-06-2015, 14:03

I got black friends yeah, that one is such a cliche. You think I am a racist, that's fine. I'll tell my gf and my Somalian guest who lives in my guestroom that I dispise them, they aren't going to believe me though

You didn't jgive me what I asked for by the way, saying that I said something I didn't is called slander

**Fragony** · 11-06-2015, 15:11

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

Islam is not a race and you're not racist if you are concerned about millions of unregistered and unknown people spilling into your country.

Ya. Turkish maffia caught on quikly, almost all pasports are fake, we have no idea who these people are. They refuse to register because Mutti Theresa promised everybody is welcome in Germany. That relinut farmhorse is a disaster.

**Husar** · 11-06-2015, 15:40

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

Islam is not a race and you're not racist if you are concerned about millions of unregistered and unknown people spilling into your country.

Every country has crime.

**Sarmatian** · 11-06-2015, 18:15

Originally Posted by Fragony

I got black friends yeah, that one is such a cliche. You think I am a racist, that's fine. I'll tell my gf and my Somalian guest who lives in my guestroom that I dispise them, they aren't going to believe me though

You didn't jgive me what I asked for by the way, saying that I said something I didn't is called slander

I don't have the time to go search for it now. Maybe I'll get to it in the next few days, although one would think that you, being such a staunch opponent of immigration, would keep facts and figures at you finger tips.

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

Islam is not a race and you're not racist if you are concerned about millions of unregistered and unknown people spilling into your country.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Racism, like so many other terms, has broadened in meaning and includes hate of any group of different people, not necessarily just those with different skin colour.

But, okay, I'll play ball - is bigotry or chauvinism more to your liking?

Registration takes time, and it will be done eventually (a huge number has already been registered when they entered Serbia, it was Greece that didn't register almost anyone so they wouldn't appear as the first country refugees entered because then the rest of EU could theoretically just dump them all back to Greece) but it would be inhumane to keep refugees outside for weeks/months while they wait for registration, in Europe in November.

At least inform yourselves about basic facts before you start hating. But, if you did that, most of the problem would be solved.

**Fragony** · 11-07-2015, 07:49

Originally Posted by Sarmatian

I don't have the time to go search for it now. Maybe I'll get to it in the next few days, although one would think that you, being such a staunch opponent of immigration, would keep facts and figures at you finger tips.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Racism, like so many other terms, has broadened in meaning and includes hate of any group of different people, not necessarily just those with different skin colour.

But, okay, I'll play ball - is bigotry or chauvinism more to your liking?

Registration takes time, and it will be done eventually (a huge number has already been registered when they entered Serbia, it was Greece that didn't register almost anyone so they wouldn't appear as the first country refugees entered because then the rest of EU could theoretically just dump them all back to Greece) but it would be inhumane to keep refugees outside for weeks/months while they wait for registration, in Europe in November.

At least inform yourselves about basic facts before you start hating. But, if you did that, most of the problem would be solved.

I see. Maybe it just isn't there

**HopAlongBunny** · 11-07-2015, 09:27

Canada is stepping up to the plate.
Recently elected Liberal gov't pledges to take in 25,000 refugees before the end of the year.
Rather serious questions remain about whether it is feasible in the time allotted.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trud...oups-1.3291959

**Fragony** · 11-07-2015, 10:26

That's nice of them but it isn't going to really make a difference

**Montmorency** · 11-06-2015, 18:00

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

Islam is not a race and you're not racist if you are concerned about millions of unregistered and unknown people spilling into your country.

In fact, it would be much easier if European governments adopted policies that answered a different question than 'how do we deal with these Mohammedans?'

By approaching integration as something that is done to or by "Muslims", you implicitly endorse the Islamist manifesto of "Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Fuhrer"; if we would like to remediate the insular tendencies of disoriented foreigners, then giving them nothing to latch onto but fundamentalist pan-Islamic identity and a sense of grievance. Or should we be surprised when we sweep a bunch of dust into a corner and end up with dustballs?

Even going according to a breakdown by ethnicity or national origin would be an improvement. Of course, at this point it would be too little too late given the oppositional structure and culture that has become well-established in Muslim Europe over the past 20 years.