IMMIGRATION thread

[Husar]

No, I am not punished because there is not intent to harm me or anyone else. There is no punishment involveed.

Yes, I'm glad you saw the other mistake yourself.

This is urgent; it's going on right now.

So is everything else.

In terms of keeping out the ones most likely to offend, it's not realistic. In terms of cultural clashes and segregation, it's not relevant.

If fighting criminals is not realistic, should we further cut police budgets? But throwing all muslims/middle easterners out of the country IS realistic instead? Please explain how segregation, crime and cultural clashes are not related.

[Pannonian]

Yes, I'm glad you saw the other mistake yourself.

So is everything else.

If fighting criminals is not realistic, should we further cut police budgets? But throwing all muslims/middle easterners out of the country IS realistic instead? Please explain how segregation, crime and cultural clashes are not related.

Keeping them out of the country is certainly realistic. All we have to do is maintain the status quo. It's you who are arguing to change that status quo.

[Viking]

Yes, I'm glad you saw the other mistake yourself.

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So is everything else.

This takes us back to:

You can take the initiative to solve one security issue without simultaneously committing yourself to solve any security issue you can possibly think of ASAP.

The thing about this solution is that can be relatively simple to implement successfully (relative to how large the drop in unwanted behaviour would be, rather than the ability to keep every disallowed person out); which speaks for its prioritisation.

If fighting criminals is not realistic, should we further cut police budgets? But throwing all muslims/middle easterners out of the country IS realistic instead? Please explain how segregation, crime and cultural clashes are not related.

None of this was what we were talking about.

[Husar]

Keeping them out of the country is certainly realistic. All we have to do is maintain the status quo. It's you who are arguing to change that status quo.

If you mean keeping the refugees out of Britain, to a large extent it seems realistic unless we give them a lot of boats to swarm you with.
How should the Greeks and Italians go about it?

Ah foggetabouit, see it all the time. You have no arguments so you try to make those who disagree look hysterical. But those who do aren't shouting but being reasonable, a courtisy that's never rewarded with any courtisy, only hyperbole. It doesn't make me angry but it does dissapoint because no cliché is left behind.

You only reply with cryptic somethings, never an argument and even less often a link. Yet you keep accusing others of having no argument even though you are shown plenty. What are we arguing about anyway? In Beskar's thread it seemed like we agree and here you say I have no argument.

The thing about this solution is that can be relatively simple to implement successfully (relative to how large the drop in unwanted behaviour would be, rather than the ability to keep every disallowed person out); which speaks for its prioritisation.

How large would the drop in unwanted behavior be and how large would it be for other measures? And where do morals come into the equation? What would be the impact on Greece, Italy and surrounding countries? What the impact on those people stranded somewhere in the middle of winter? Would it be okay to let a few thousand people freeze to death because it's simple? What exactly are we talking about? Is this a what-if about us having kept the borders closed or are we talking about sending everybody who came back to somewhere else? And where to? What if the other country does not want them?

None of this was what we were talking about.

So it was the what-if after all? Okay, then, what should we have done and how nice would it be now then?

[Pannonian]

If you mean keeping the refugees out of Britain, to a large extent it seems realistic unless we give them a lot of boats to swarm you with.
How should the Greeks and Italians go about it?

Nice to see Germans once again wanting to impose their policies on others.