Mafia v. Cult [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Not my top priority but it still needs to be addressed

Can you / others help me look at GH

I don't think he was starting cult. What changed in his reads if anything did, and is it even significant.

Really no reason for GH to change his reads and make it obvious. But it's worth looking at even a little bit just in case there is something there that could reveal a clue about who else may be on that team or who recruited, or at the very least, someone who the cult team wants to eliminate and doesn't want to convert- such as a mafioso.

It's possible there's subtle knowledge from the cult left behind which could help us lynch mafia today.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Absent that I'm lynching based on what I see as guilty in-thread behavior.

If Visor were mafia I'd be dead by now.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I will look at it after Sooh goes to work if I have the time, otherwise I'm welcoming opinions on either subject

a) people are mafia because _____
b) analysis of the revealed cultists and who you think the leader is, and who is specifically not cult right now

If anyone wants to put that level of effort in. I kind of do but I could easily see myself not doing it and just yolo'ing mafia suspects until town wins because mafia killed the cult off and we lynched mafia, or I get converted and then hunting the mafia becomes ridic simple.

[Visor]

Oh, before I forget.

One of the reasons I was suspicious of choxorn was his blatant parroting for no reason of your 'case' on me.

Especially the lack of justification which is normally seen by choxorn and the fact that he had obviously read the thread if he had seen the case but had nothing else to comment on just struck me as suspicious.

[Visor]

Not my top priority but it still needs to be addressed

Can you / others help me look at GH

I don't think he was starting cult. What changed in his reads if anything did, and is it even significant.

Really no reason for GH to change his reads and make it obvious. But it's worth looking at even a little bit just in case there is something there that could reveal a clue about who else may be on that team or who recruited, or at the very least, someone who the cult team wants to eliminate and doesn't want to convert- such as a mafioso.

It's possible there's subtle knowledge from the cult left behind which could help us lynch mafia today.

I also agree that he was highly likely to be a recruit.

[Visor]

At a guess I think he was recruited after the khaan lynch. Or sometime after that.

[Jarema]

1. Cult could deliberately not recruit 'obvious' converts
2. jarrema would have recruited me if he was cult leader

1. Of course, but IMO GH was 'obvious' convert
2. agreed :)

I still think that vote: ATPG must be scum now

[Visor]

Cmon mate, that ain't gonna fly.

Why is he scum?

Reasons please.

[Jarema]

I stated it already I think, and this is almost self-explaining.

He is ATPG.
I try to think 'whom I would recruit if I was a cult leader?'
then, my short list was on day one: ATPG, GH, Visor, Zack.
If I was a cult leader, they all would be cultists by now

[Visor]

I stated it already I think, and this is almost self-explaining.

He is ATPG.
I try to think 'whom I would recruit if I was a cult leader?'
then, my short list was on day one: ATPG, GH, Visor, Zack.
If I was a cult leader, they all would be cultists by now

We want to lynch mafia not cult.

Vote: Jarrema

[Jarema]

I want to lynch any scum.
And there is of course possibility that ATPG is mafia - he is still alive after all.

Do you think I am mafia?

[Al Sipsclar]

I wanted to look at the math myself, but I got to sleep. Given the initial numbers in each faction (2-4), 2 incovertibles, and 2 bulletproofs, what are the odds for a night kill and for a successful conversion. Then from the sample of the night kills, what can we tell about the whole population. I mean, cult could recruit successfully every night, and 2/4 (or 3/4, if the night of no kill was hitting a BP cultist) of kills being cultists is scary.

I'd rank it Golden-Jarema-Pelican, so my vote stays where it is.

One of Jarema or Pelican might be a cultist. Vote: Jarema

[Cuthillius]

Vote: Cuthillius

He is acting like his scum self.

He needs to die.

How am I acting like my scum self?

[Askthepizzaguy]

How am I acting like my scum self?

How am I acting like my scum self?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't really invest too much in the outcome of this cult-based game because it's a cult based game, and I still have invested a lot more effort into whatever these bs attacks on me are today.

You guys sound bored. I'm insulted.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Jarema, I give you one option

You can vote for Cuth

Or I'm going to lynch you today.

Get in line and work with the town or die.

[Jarema]

@ATPG
why Cuth??
I can agree for common target that makes sense. But I dont feel Cuth being scum

Maybe vote: Pelican?

[Askthepizzaguy]

@ATPG
why Cuth??
I can agree for common target that makes sense. But I dont feel Cuth being scum

Maybe vote: Pelican?

Jarema, it's a good thing I'm not scum because you're letting me get away pretty darn easily there.

Go into a little bit more detail, not only about Pelican but where you are at this game in general.

I know you're not a super talky player, but open your notebook and show me what page you're on.

[Cuthillius]

How am I acting like my scum self?

You're being joking the same way as I've seen you do as scum specifically, and your immediate thunderdome challenge is definitely scummy. I've seen what you do.

Jarema, vote for ATPG.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Want me to link my last 10 games as scum so you can identify that trend?

[Sooh]

You're being joking the same way as I've seen you do as scum specifically, and your immediate thunderdome challenge is definitely scummy. I've seen what you do.

Jarema, vote for ATPG.

Pizza thunderdome is exactly null, or perhaps even a bit townie in my opinion. I've seen him take on players like that more often as town than as scum, and that recently as well.

I may be completely oblivious to the obvious here, but until that's proven I will Vote: Cuthilius

You're reaching.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=560886
Ended 17th Jan this year

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...rn-of-the-King
Ended 16th Jan this year

http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/f...-fiend-victory
Ended Oct 15 last year

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59...hread-1534651/
Ended June 1 last year

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=545809
Ended May 8 last year

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59...-13er-1526864/
Ended April 27 last year

Hells kitchen
Ended 23rd Feb last year

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...I-Resurrection
Ended Feb 9 last year

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...art-on-page-3)
Ended less than 2 years ago

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showt...ip-of-the-Ring
Ended less than 2 years ago

Feel free to dig.

Now guess how long it would take me to find a game where I joked around a lot as a townie.

https://forums.taleworlds.com/index....,342967.0.html
Ended Jan 24 this year. I was King Bowser.

How about Pirate Ship III?

How about the last game at Civ? Town of Sissy heroes?

It's basically every single game btw, and I'm far more serious when I'm a scumbag.

This game is me being loose.

You lose.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hell, check out those quickie games on this site I was a part of not that long ago that I was quoting from earlier.

I mean, basically, you can't be more wrong here.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The best part about not lying is I don't even have to look.

Those 10 scum games I linked, is me in serious mode approximately 49 out of every 50 posts.

If that's even a little bit mathematically wrong, lynch me today or tomorrow or any day. That's how sure I am. Without even having to check.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I have like 4 town games back to back on DM which contain a buttload of posts I could quote for townie comparison which ended recently.

This is to anyone. Randomly pick one of those games and see what I do there as scum.

Randomly pick a townie game for comparison. Spend 5 minutes on each game.

I double dare ya.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Got plenty of time to do the research.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I didn't include 2 games where I got converted to cult after starting as townie, because the majority of my posts were townie ones.

[Askthepizzaguy]

So here I am by myself uh uh talkin to myself. That's that's chaos theory.

I just looked at Jumping Mafia where I'd say only my opening post even qualifies as a joke, versus Town of Sissy Heroes where half of my posts are jokes. That's me picking so it's not exactly random, but you can play this game at home too frands.

[El Barto]

atheotes replaces SeveringViper in this game.

List of players

1. Raith Kemmler
2. Choxorn
3. Jarema
4. Golden1Knight†, lynched Day Four, TOWN.
5. Csargo
6. GeneralHankerchief†, killed Night Four, CULTIST.
7. seireikhaan†, lynched Day Three, TOWN.
8. Zain
9. Pelican
10. landlubber
11. Al Sipsclar
12. Kennigit†, killed Night Two, CULTIST.
13. BSmith†, killed Night One, TOWN.
14. Askthepizzaguy
15. Cuthillius
16. Zack†, lynched Day Two, TOWN.
17. Sooh
18. Scarlett Aria†, lynched Day One, TOWN.
19. Visorslash
20. atheotes

There's still 23½ hours left.

[Cuthillius]

Ah, and can you link me your last cult games?