Wow, so little activity

**Axalon** · 08-28-2016, 18:52

Originally Posted by ReluctantSamurai

Referring to Backroom antics, or something else? I would venture a guess that a large portion of the daily Org traffic is there

Something else… Like…

In reality we have 2 out of 7 sections on the index that between themselves somehow deals in some 10-11 TW-games (and some of that TW-marketing-ploy-stuff too. Hi Arena!), and 1 section that deals in hosted major mods/alterations, for ALL TW-games, and 1 section that deals in ALL abandoned previously hosted mods, this for ALL TW-games. At the same time, we have three full sections dedicated for stuff that is not TW-related, to deal with god knows what. 3 full sections on the index… All TW-games got 2… All TW-Mods/alterations this including all the abandoned ones, got 2… ALL side-stuff, off-topic, community-blabla, all non-TW things get 3! That is the reality here...

I have zero problems with all that off-topic, non-TW, community-stuff as such - we can totally keep that around (for all those who wants that). What I do have problems with, is how all that is being elevated to the supposed primary focus, purpose and attraction of this site. This while TW in general, and it the individual TW-games in particular, are being clearly demoted to a near side-show status. It is utterly screwed up, especially for a site that is supposed to be dealing in TW-games, and who built its name and brand by dealing in TW-games - not the latest TW-game, not some off-topic fleeting blabla. It WAS a fan-site for TW-enthusiasts in general and its micro-communities around each game in particular. That is what this place used to be about. That is what this site should still be about, and this site should provide the infrastructure and areas for it. Yet it don’t. As it used to do, in the past, on the index, and beyond. Screw that there are more TW-games released now, its no real excuse. The size of the index should not get to dictate who is to feel welcome here, or be an excuse as to dismantle the rational and natural coverage of TW-games - as has been essentially the case. Or dictate what we all are supposed to be interested in - let us decide that for ourselves. Let us tailor the index how we like and see fit, individually, do not try to force us to use it in your certain preferred damned way...

I was rather thinking about such stuff... And other things...

- A

**ReluctantSamurai** · 08-28-2016, 20:45

I also think that management persists in thinking in terms of “Org-community” as one supposed homogenous “team”/group - its not. Or even views the TW-community as a homogenous group of people - its not.

As it is, both are highly heterogeneous, and get increasingly so, for each and every new game-release and year. The very idea of a TW-community might have functioned - well enough - back in 2000-2005, but it does not in 2016. Same thing applies to the “Org-community”

This. Got me to thinking that back in the "day", there were only two games for folks to discuss/play/rant about/mod etc. With each release of a game, more players split off into their favorites. Many newcomers have never even played the original STW/MTW but with the newer updates from Steam etc., that could change if promoted. I don't care for 19th century warfare (except for the ACW), and so I never bothered to purchase ETW/NTW. I'm sure this liking/disliking a particular era of warfare is true for a number, if not most, of the players who visit here.

The reality here is that we have micro-communities, clustered around a single game or activity (of choice) - and that we will continue get more and more of these, as more games are released.

And I can guarantee that recognizing and adapting fully to the concept of micro-communities will somehow be required element in order to secure that “win” for this place. Most visitors come here for the games, specific games and/or activities. If this place can not attractively enough cater too and offer sexy enough stomping grounds for that, it will lose that visitor.

Over the last 6-8 months I've been watching the ebb and flow of active members and the number of new members joining. We seem to have around 2-4 new members join each week (someone with a better handle on this number can correct me if I'm wrong). Where are they? Do they just post a few times, and disappear? I can remember a time when a new member stuck around (primarily in the RTW Forum) to contribute campaign AAR's, additions to the Guides, or some other consistent posting subject.

What I do have problems with, is how all that is being elevated to the supposed primary focus, purpose and attraction of this site. This while TW in general, and it the individual TW-games in particular, are being clearly demoted to a near side-show status. It is utterly screwed up, especially for a site that is supposed to be dealing in TW-games, and who built its name and brand by dealing in TW-games - not the latest TW-game, not some off-topic fleeting blabla. It WAS a fan-site for TW-enthusiasts in general and its micro-communities around each game in particular. That is what this place used to be about. That is what this site should still be about, and this site should provide the infrastructure and areas for it. Yet it don’t. As it used to do, in the past, on the index, and beyond.

Amen.

**Frazzle-G** · 08-29-2016, 13:34

I'm new, I joined around July last year and have participated in most if not all threads concerning to warhammer, I even started my own thread which was a rather comprehensive strategy guide.

**edyzmedieval** · 09-09-2016, 12:05

Bit of cross-promotion, but it would be useful to drop in some ideas here - https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...-Org-Promotion

In short, TWC and the official fora has taken most of the traffic, because they appeal to the casual gamers as outlined. The Org has been more for the veteran TW players, but even during RTW and M2TW days, the place was very very active. The difference started with ETW, which was panned by players and it recovered slightly with Shogun 2 TW (a lot of old players returned) but then it went downhill again with player disappointment over R2TW. (I liked R2TW...)

Perhaps bringing back older players and attracting the new ones will help revive this place.

**hoom** · 09-14-2016, 06:32

For me lack of activity here is mainly that Warhammer & Attilla setting/periods don't do anything for me.

.org kinda died back in Rome1 time period, most of the modding activity happened over at twcenter & has remained there.
I never joined there but I certainly lurk.

I think a lot of new players don't know of the .org & stick to official .com.

I also disagree that Rome2 was really that bad.
Launched state yes but patched it mostly works pretty well.
Fundamentally they have a comprehensive list of factions with good unit rosters well modelled & a bunch of functional fixes to issues from the 3D map.

**edyzmedieval** · 09-14-2016, 14:30

Org during the Rome 1 period was very very active, I joined during that time and this place was overflowing. Threads and posts every other refresh click. M2TW as well, going strong.