Futuramafia [Concluded]

[Dp101]

Ah, so the problem is that it's a maybe-town point? I thought the problem was that it was too early to give out town points.

My problem with it is that every town point is a maybe town point at this point, as it is too early to really give them out. Therefore, saying that someone is probably town at the point Winston did, where there is basically no evidence at that point, is a easy thing to say to give the illusion of having content while not actually saying anything. It doesn't even tie them down that much because as mentioned earlier it is day one and since nearly everything is meaningless it is easy to state that you were wrong if you painted your mafia buddy as town. Really, I think that you are much more likely mafia at this point. You keep piling on the pressure onto someone who has made small logical gaps in the hopes that people will think inconsistency = mafia, and thus secure an easy early mislynch. If you are town, I would have thought that you are experienced enough to know that everyone slips up, both mafia and town. As it is, the fact that you don't give me the benefit of the doubt makes me suspect you.

[novice]

My problem with it is that every town point is a maybe town point at this point, as it is too early to really give them out. Therefore, saying that someone is probably town at the point Winston did, where there is basically no evidence at that point, is a easy thing to say to give the illusion of having content while not actually saying anything. It doesn't even tie them down that much because as mentioned earlier it is day one and since nearly everything is meaningless it is easy to state that you were wrong if you painted your mafia buddy as town. Really, I think that you are much more likely mafia at this point. You keep piling on the pressure onto someone who has made small logical gaps in the hopes that people will think inconsistency = mafia, and thus secure an easy early mislynch. If you are town, I would have thought that you are experienced enough to know that everyone slips up, both mafia and town. As it is, the fact that you don't give me the benefit of the doubt makes me suspect you.

Ah, so you admit to slipping up? /jk

Yes, I'm piling up the pressure. Who says I'm not giving you the benefit of the doubt, though? You'll notice I'm not voting for you.

So giving out town points is meaningless, but showing confidence in your reads is good?

[novice]

You keep piling on the pressure onto someone who has made small logical gaps in the hopes that people will think inconsistency = mafia, and thus secure an easy early mislynch. If you are town, I would have thought that you are experienced enough to know that everyone slips up, both mafia and town.

FWIW I would agree that this is a possible way to play as mafia. I would like to think though that mafia slips up more often than town, and that the behaviour where you slightly modify your reasoning from post to post is seen more often in scum than in town.

I'd be interested to hear what the players from other communities think though.

RealmsBeyond, where I hail from, is rather infamous for the "inconsistency = scum" meta even though that is clearly not a golden rule.

[Dp101]

FWIW I would agree that this is a possible way to play as mafia. I would like to think though that mafia slips up more often than town, and that the behaviour where you slightly modify your reasoning from post to post is seen more often in scum than in town.

I'd be interested to hear what the players from other communities think though.

RealmsBeyond, where I hail from, is rather infamous for the "inconsistency = scum" meta even though that is clearly not a golden rule.

I agree with the idea that changing arguments constantly from post to post helps mafia more than town, but I really dislike the RB meta that makes changing your opinion a death sentence (guess why I wanted to play on a different site for once), as I tend to modify my theories over time and that seems to make some people think I'm mafia.

[El Barto]

RealmsBeyond, where I hail from, is rather infamous for the "inconsistency = scum" meta even though that is clearly not a golden rule.

If such were the case we should lynch all players simultaneously.

[Dp101]

Ah, so you admit to slipping up? /jk

Yes, I'm piling up the pressure. Who says I'm not giving you the benefit of the doubt, though? You'll notice I'm not voting for you.

So giving out town points is meaningless, but showing confidence in your reads is good?

Ok, I apologise for the comment about you not being fair with your reads, you are right, you are at least not voting me. And yeah, I know the last part kind of is a contradiction. In my defence, my initial reads list which sparked all this was posted at midnight my time, so I wasn't really thinking clearly. Anyway, I don't think I'm going to come up with a more coherent opinion right now, I will try and solidify my thoughts on day 1 meta at a different time.

[Winston Hughes]

My problem with it is that every town point is a maybe town point at this point, as it is too early to really give them out.

It's never too early to give town points. Especially for karma.

Therefore, saying that someone is probably town at the point Winston did, where there is basically no evidence at that point, is a easy thing to say to give the illusion of having content while not actually saying anything.

This might be a decent point if I hadn't been spamming up the thread with all manner of nonsense.

A better line would be that I was posting shite just to look active.

The truth is that I was just enjoying myself and hopefully giving people stuff to talk about.

Really, I think that you are much more likely mafia at this point. You keep piling on the pressure onto someone who has made small logical gaps in the hopes that people will think inconsistency = mafia, and thus secure an easy early mislynch. If you are town, I would have thought that you are experienced enough to know that everyone slips up, both mafia and town. As it is, the fact that you don't give me the benefit of the doubt makes me suspect you.

Am I going to regret telling you my whole townie playbook in our pre-hydra discussions?

Confidence says you're thinking like a townie. Paranoia says I told you exactly how to do that.

[Dp101]

Am I going to regret telling you my whole townie playbook in our pre-hydra discussions?

Confidence says you're thinking like a townie. Paranoia says I told you exactly how to do that.

Yeah, I was a little worried that I would end up reflexively viewing you as town because of the hydra game and Novice as town because of the shared original community. Right now it seems like I was overcompensating for any bias I might have had and was viewing the both of you as more scummy than you are. Now however I have gained the clarity to realise that Novice is probably just either trying really really hard to find some kind of mafia or he thinks I'm mafia because that is all he has seen me play. As for you telling me too much, don't worry, you left yourself an out with the "will occasionally get drunk and post whatever" clause.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Okay back from a rough workday and actually ready to contribute (at least until the Eagles game starts).

Why is Stork carrying three votes?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Okay, CrimsonFox has been around a lot since he's made the Stork vote, including indicating particular posts he wasn't a fan of. Since we've already established that Fox won't hesitate to drop a vote on someone, why's the vote still on your original target?

[Visor]

Vote: CrimsonFox

as much as I don't like voting people new to the site, i like the vote

probably wrong on gh, jury is out on winston

dp is okay

the guy who said stuff about when do we start playing is probably a villager but his tone is meh

monty is meh

stork is meh but probably a villager

[CrimsonFox]

Vote: CrimsonFox

as much as I don't like voting people new to the site, i like the vote

probably wrong on gh, jury is out on winston

dp is okay

the guy who said stuff about when do we start playing is probably a villager but his tone is meh

monty is meh

stork is meh but probably a villager

visor, why did stork become a scumread

[Visor]

also john n0 villager

[CrimsonFox]

Okay, CrimsonFox has been around a lot since he's made the Stork vote, including indicating particular posts he wasn't a fan of. Since we've already established that Fox won't hesitate to drop a vote on someone, why's the vote still on your original target?

it isn't?

[GeneralHankerchief]

it isn't?

It was per Zack's tally.

[CrimsonFox]

this site is actually peculiar in that the bulk of what i'm seeing is just votes without a lot of text.

don't get me wrong. i don't dislike that. on other sites i see so many people sherlockholmesing the thread so much based on nothing that it's annoying.

i voted stork mainly based on meta because of rick and morty mainly.

and i really will never ever shake the feeling that he is a wolf until he is clear.

other than that i was kinda waiting for more people to say stuff before forming any sort of real read

[Visor]

this site is actually peculiar in that the bulk of what i'm seeing is just votes without a lot of text.

don't get me wrong. i don't dislike that. on other sites i see so many people sherlockholmesing the thread so much based on nothing that it's annoying.

i voted stork mainly based on meta because of rick and morty mainly.

and i really will never ever shake the feeling that he is a wolf until he is clear.

other than that i was kinda waiting for more people to say stuff before forming any sort of real read

we are a fairly casual site in that we start slow and don't expect a huge amount

stork has some interesting tonal qualities to his game, but he probably needs to post more for any sort of real read

[seireikhaan]

this site is actually peculiar in that the bulk of what i'm seeing is just votes without a lot of text.

don't get me wrong. i don't dislike that. on other sites i see so many people sherlockholmesing the thread so much based on nothing that it's annoying.

i voted stork mainly based on meta because of rick and morty mainly.

and i really will never ever shake the feeling that he is a wolf until he is clear.

other than that i was kinda waiting for more people to say stuff before forming any sort of real read

Okay, what the heck, we got 5 days of posting and people talking about getting reads and feelings based on day 1? This aint daddy's old GR, it seems.

Okay, I'm a bit out of the loop, and there's other offenders doing similar things but. How the heck do you have a wolf feeling on anyone? It's day 1. Practically nothing has happened. Is this a meta thing that went over my head?

[BSmith]

Why is Stork carrying three votes?

Word on the street is he dropped a baby on someone's head. It's actually amazing he doesn't have more votes dping something as sick as that. Just goes to show how depraved the world has become.

vote: Fox I think he wanted more pressure or something. That and he was the last to post before I thumbed my way through this post on my phone.

[BSmith]

*doing. Did I mention my poor ability to type on a phone?

[Al Sipsclar]

Honey unit, I'm home!

Oh, wow. D1, 153 posts, people seem to be trying to solve game already, and I came here to do a lame Vote: BSmith on a poster above me and post a Futurama quote.