Futuramafia [Concluded]

[GeneralHankerchief]

No.

[novice]

Any previous actions, GH?

Is there a way to quote a post and keep the quotes from the post you're quoting?

[Askthepizzaguy]

6 spaceman98 (Visor, Cuthillius, Montmorency, GeneralHankerchief, CrimsonFox, El Barto)

4 BSmith (spaceman98, Dp101, seireikhaan, Al Sipsclar)
4 CrimsonFox (BSmith, Pelican, atheotes, Choxorn)
4 El Barto (Riedquat, Newyn, Winston Hughes, Stork)

2 Cuthillius (Askthepizzaguy, Murska)

1 GeneralHankerchief (novice)
1 Winston Hughes (johnhughthom)

1 Not Voting: El Barto
End of Day one

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6 BSmith (novice, Stork, Generalhankerchief, Cuthillius, Dp101, Askthepizzaguy)

3 novice (Visor, atheotes, BSmith)

2 Riedquat (Montmorency, Winston Hughes)

1 Choxorn (Al Sipsclar)
1 CrimsonFox (khaan)
1 Montmorency (Pelican)
1 seireikhaan (CrimsonFox)
1 Visor (Murska)
1 Winston Hughes (johnhughthom)

3 Not Voting: Choxorn, Newyn, Riedquat
End of Day Two.

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9 Stork (novice, cuthillius, dp101, Winston, johnhughthom, Askthepizzaguy, choxorn, Newyn, al sipsclar)

5 Askthepizzaguy (montmorency, pelican, riedquat, murska, Stork)

2 novice (atheotes, generalhankerchief)

End of Day Three.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Don't think there's a way on this board.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Any previous actions, GH?

Is there a way to quote a post and keep the quotes from the post you're quoting?

1) Yes, but I don't want to disclose them at this time.

2) I think unfortunately you just have to quote the posts individually.

[novice]

6 spaceman98 (Visor, Cuthillius, Montmorency, GeneralHankerchief, CrimsonFox, El Barto)

4 BSmith (spaceman98, Dp101, seireikhaan, Al Sipsclar)
4 CrimsonFox (BSmith, Pelican, atheotes, Choxorn)
4 El Barto (Riedquat, Newyn, Winston Hughes, Stork)

2 Cuthillius (Askthepizzaguy, Murska)

1 GeneralHankerchief (novice)
1 Winston Hughes (johnhughthom)

1 Not Voting: El Barto
End of Day one

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6 BSmith (novice, Stork, Generalhankerchief, Cuthillius, Dp101, Askthepizzaguy)

3 novice (Visor, atheotes, BSmith)

2 Riedquat (Montmorency, Winston Hughes)

1 Choxorn (Al Sipsclar)
1 CrimsonFox (khaan)
1 Montmorency (Pelican)
1 seireikhaan (CrimsonFox)
1 Visor (Murska)
1 Winston Hughes (johnhughthom)

3 Not Voting: Choxorn, Newyn, Riedquat
End of Day Two.

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9 Stork (novice, cuthillius, dp101, Winston, johnhughthom, Askthepizzaguy, choxorn, Newyn, al sipsclar)

5 Askthepizzaguy (montmorency, pelican, riedquat, murska, Stork)

2 novice (atheotes, generalhankerchief)

End of Day Three.

Thanks, ATPG.
Of course, now I have to go pick up the kids.

Quick thoughts - day 1 was all villagers on the block, in a vacuum I would expect scum to avoid clustering on the same targets, but their number one priority would be to place a "natural" vote, that would override clustering concerns. Day 2 is similar just looking at the end tally, if we believe Riedquat's claim. Day 3 also if Pizza is town.

Yeah that's exceptionally crappy analysis but I have to run. Thanks for compiling the votes anyway Pizza, I think it's something everyone should look at.

I'll return to it tonight and also see if I can adapt my browser plugin that does vote analysis to work with this forum.

[Cuthillius]

-.o

okay then

[Cuthillius]

I kinda want to lynch one from {jht, chox, al}

I believe Pizza about 50% right now, but I also don't really want to lynch the tracker. As it were.

[Dp101]

I agree with Novice's assessment of day 1, every wagon had at least 1 person I think are mafia on it. Day 2 initially looks like you can't get much out of it because there was only 1 major candidate, but IIRC Novice was a very close second place for much of the day leading up to deadline, but there were some last second switches that turned the vote as lopsided as it appears. Two ways to interpret this, one is that Novice was mafia and the BSmith wagon was designed to save him, and the other is that Novice is innocent and was the preferred lynch target of the mafia, but it didn't go through. The first theory is more coherent and feels like something mafia would do, but it isn't that hard to see random chance produce a similar result if the town was just engaging in groupthink and switched because other people were switching. Still, day 2 does not make Novice look that great.

Day 3 is odd. I'm still pretty sure that a lot of the mafia were on the Stork wagon, but the people on Pizza don't look great. Right now I kind of want Quat to claim before really going after him, and my pocketing paranoia makes me trust the Pizza voters a little more than perhaps I should, so I kind of want to wait and see on them right now. Really I just want one wolf to die, just one, so that I can finally have something concrete to look at.

[novice]

Khaan is dead. Did you look at him?

[Dp101]

Khaan is dead. Did you look at him?

Sorry, I meant wolf with a decent amount of posts. Khaan didn't have much other than bashing heads with Crimson a bunch, I honestly can't remember another action he did.

[novice]

Also, at the risk of being too self-centered, not many people are being definite about me. I get the feeling I'm a planned endgame lynch for the mafia. Anybody want to give a stronger read on me?

[novice]

You can read what other people said about Khaan. Someone listed it, probably Pizza.

[Dp101]

Also, at the risk of being too self-centered, not many people are being definite about me. I get the feeling I'm a planned endgame lynch for the mafia. Anybody want to give a stronger read on me?

I want to say you are mafia based off of day 2's votes, but it's hard to judge someone who hasn't been able to be around that much. I understand it's not your fault, it's just hard to work around.

[Dp101]

You can read what other people said about Khaan. Someone listed it, probably Pizza.

Good point, going to look for it. I don't remember there being much interesting stuff there, but any info beats no info.

[Cuthillius]

Also, at the risk of being too self-centered, not many people are being definite about me. I get the feeling I'm a planned endgame lynch for the mafia. Anybody want to give a stronger read on me?

eh, that's a wolfy thought

[novice]

Dp: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053715277

[novice]

OK, fine, I got that one wrong.

I want Monty to be scum but blatant factual error is another minor town tell.

[Dp101]

Khaan wanted to save Monty and didn't like Pizza. Cuth, Atheotes and Pizza were the only ones that really tried to analyse Khaan in any detail. Atheotes condensed the thoughts on Khaan from the town down to a pretty good post, I will quote it next but don't know how to put a quote into a comment I already started writing.

[Dp101]

Dp: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053715277

Ah, that shows the Atheotes post I was talking about, good. Thank you.

[Riedquat]

Forum keep eating my post...

Here you go Pizza, I've already told you this but here it is anyway, I've just omitted one of my VC's

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I'm so excited I wish I could wet my pants.





Bender Bending Rodriguez

Player: Riedquat

Role: Bender (https://theinfosphere.org/bender)

Faction: BENDER (NEUTRAL)


Team Victory Conditions:

Bender's victory is graded (at the host's discretion) on his ability to achieve the goals below, listed in no particular order.

- Survival. You, Bender, survive the game.

- Robot Prosperity. As many robots as possible survive the game (bonus points if Flexo survives too).

-

Abilities:

Kleptomania. Each Night, you may steal an item from another player, which will reveal their relation to your victory conditions, if any. This ability cannot be used on the same player twice.

Further the cause. After using "Kleptomania" on a player, you have a chance at gaining one use of this ability. Use it on the same player and you will protect him. You can use this ability and Kleptomania on the same night.

This metal is more than just shiny. Nightkill immunity on Night 1. This is a passive ability and it triggers automatically.

[Winston Hughes]

Fine.

Hardclaim Jailkeeper.

Which character?

[Winston Hughes]

@Dp101

So, you say hadn't played mafia online before your game at RB, but how much have you played offline?

[atheotes]

Khaan wanted to save Monty and didn't like Pizza. Cuth, Atheotes and Pizza were the only ones that really tried to analyse Khaan in any detail. Atheotes condensed the thoughts on Khaan from the town down to a pretty good post, I will quote it next but don't know how to put a quote into a comment I already started writing.

i dont want to lynch you anymore

Okay let me just ask you a quick question since this is easier than doing in-thread research and I don't know how much time I have:

How likely is the possibility that there *is* a mafia roleblocker? I haven't seen any mention of this anywhere in the thread. I know the possibility of a rolecop was brought up earlier and I think that more closely jives with what we've seen to this point. Based off what we know, is it likely that both are present?

You are sceptical that mafia might have roleblocker and rolecop? we already know we have 4 dead town PRs of some kind. we have neutral parties, seen a day kill, and have more PR claims and you are claiming jailkeeper. Yet, you think its unlikely for scum to have Roleblocker and Role cop? i call BS on this post. I dont believe GH's claim.

[Zack]

Official Tally

4 GeneralHankerchief (ATPG, atheotes, Murska, novice)

3 Askthepizzaguy (Monty, Cuth, Pelican)

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4 Not Voting: Dp101, GH, Riedquat, Winston

3 Not Posting: Al Sips, Choxorn, JHT

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Voting ends in:

[Riedquat]

eh, that's a wolfy thought

I have that thought every single game as vanilla townie past the midgame, and of course I usually end lynched in the engame :(

[Cuthillius]

I have that thought every single game as vanilla townie past the midgame, and of course I usually end lynched in the engame :(

not the thought per se, but saying it in thread

[Dp101]

@Dp101

So, you say hadn't played mafia online before your game at RB, but how much have you played offline?

Like twice at parties, really not much at all.

[Winston Hughes]

Like twice at parties, really not much at all.

You've read quite a bit of online mafia, though, right?

[Riedquat]

At this stage, umm it could be a bit scummy but doubt a wolf will say it anyway... weird way to call attention to himself.