Futuramafia [Concluded]

[Montmorency]

From post 2006:

	GH keeps Pizza	GH keeps someone else
Town P/Town G	Pizza reports blocked	Pizza reports GH's activity
Town P/Scum G	Pizza reports blocked	Pizza reports GH activity (risky for GH)
Scum P/Town G	Pizza wildcard	Pizza wildcard
Scum P/Scum G	Yeah right	God help us

[Cuthillius]

scum pizza always reports blocked tho

[Cuthillius]

unless this structure is actually just a screwy mindgame of 'who does gh jk"

[El Barto]

https://youtu.be/ODYAn2GC6Ls?t=415
(skip to 6:55)

Oh, I know, but what other lawyer could represent the Donbot?

[Riedquat]

To sum:
@Riedquat: Scan GH
GH: Jail Pizza @ @Askthepizzaguy: Track GH

I will scan GH tonight but agree with cuthilius, in the best scenario it will clear GH not Pizza...

[Winston Hughes]

I've seen some bad CFDs, but that one was something else. In fact, the whole of yesterday was such a clusterfuck that I'm feeling a bit more confident about my own game, as it's clear that the whole town is flailing wildly in the dark just like me.

Given this situation, I am inclined to look most closely at those people who are most likely to have driven us there deliberately: pizza, GH and Monty.

From most likely to least likely:

Two scum
All scum
One scum
No scum

Best guess is pizza and Monty, because once you start looking at that possibility, the way the game has shaken out starts to make a lot more sense imo.

Still very much like to hear GH's claimed actions, though, as well as an explanation for why he wouldn't even answer my very simple question about whether he had ever targeted me, and yet was content to jump on (and off) my bandwagon without showing any apparent interest in why I wanted to know that.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Monty's plan for me to track GH sucks and always results in me tracking a townie, dying, or tracking a dead townie GH.

GH, do whatever it is you want to do tonight, while I track an actual suspect.

If GH is guilty, under no circumstances would me tracking him work out well for anyone but scums.

[novice]

Someone said earlier (N1?) that they didn't like CFDs on people who are not around to defend themselves. Who was that?

[novice]

Monty's plan for me to track GH sucks and always results in me tracking a townie, dying, or tracking a dead townie GH.

GH, do whatever it is you want to do tonight, while I track an actual suspect.

If GH is guilty, under no circumstances would me tracking him work out well for anyone but scums.

Why didn't you say this during the day?

[Winston Hughes]

Winston Hughes, you vixen.

This post here is the kind of thing pizza loves to post as scum.

On the surface, it's about me being tricksy with my reveal.

But if he's scum, what he's really doing is giving me credit for sneaking past his near-legendary PR detector.

[novice]

So we have BSmith, El Barto and me as confirmed townies. Not that I want the responsibility, but we could just let the three of us decide by committee who to lynch, and policy lynch anyone who refuses. Thoughts?

[Dp101]

Just because we know you are town doesn't mean you are right. Who you planning to take down first? Or would you rather only state during the day?

[Askthepizzaguy]

This post here is the kind of thing pizza loves to post as scum.

On the surface, it's about me being tricksy with my reveal.

But if he's scum, what he's really doing is giving me credit for sneaking past his near-legendary PR detector.

It was me noting that you seemed to be hinting you were Bender's robot girlfriend Angle-yne.

Vixen refers to the fact that the character is female.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Who you calling meatbag, beardy?

Guess we're going to have to wait and see what GH and chox have to say for themselves.

I do have an angle here, btw, though to my knowledge I had nothing to do with the situation in question.

Objecting to being called a meatbag, followed by a conspicuous use of the word angle.

Angle-yne.

[Askthepizzaguy]

So my question is, why would Angle-yne be a town power role, and if this person was, why wouldn't they object more vociferously to either GH or Pizza's PR claims during the day phase?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Official Tally as of post 2168

4 Winston Hughes (Montmorency, Dp101, Riedquat, Al Sipsclar)
4 novice (Cuthillius, Choxorn, Askthepizzaguy, generalhanky)

3 GeneralHankerchief (atheotes, Murska, novice)

1 Pizza (Pelican)

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2 Not Voting: JHT, Winston

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Voting ends in:

Or vote for either player?

[Dp101]

Pizza, what do you make of the CFD? I went along with it because I felt that if it was wrong we could get enough info to win the game, but I'm interested to hear your thoughts on it.

[Winston Hughes]

I'm not Angle-yne.

[Winston Hughes]

So my question is, why would Angle-yne be a town power role, and if this person was, why wouldn't they object more vociferously to either GH or Pizza's PR claims during the day phase?

Reading this again, I'm not following the part about objecting to other PR claims.

What are you saying here?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Pizza, what do you make of the CFD? I went along with it because I felt that if it was wrong we could get enough info to win the game, but I'm interested to hear your thoughts on it.

This is what I see:

4 Winston Hughes (Montmorency, Dp101, Riedquat, Al Sipsclar)
4 novice (Cuthillius, Choxorn, Askthepizzaguy, generalhanky)

3 GeneralHankerchief (atheotes, Murska, novice)

Pizza, GH, and novice were all innocent.

I have no issue with Riedquat being neutral Bender, and I think Monty and Dp are town.

I still firmly believe you'll find scums inside Murska and Cuth given their behavior yesterday and everyone's unwillingness to put votes on them even when they found them scummy, but atheotes looks like he belongs in that camp and maybe even should go straight to the head of the line.

[Askthepizzaguy]

But if he's scum, what he's really doing is giving me credit for sneaking past his near-legendary PR detector.

You're soft-claiming to be a PR here. I don't believe you are one, given your behavior last round.

[Winston Hughes]

Or vote for either player?

I was spending time with my family (hadn't seen my son in five days), feeling both physically and emotionally obliterated, and was not even remotely in the mood for playing games.

Thankfully, I'm feeling much better this morning, though we'll see what a day's work does to that.

[Winston Hughes]

You're soft-claiming to be a PR here. I don't believe you are one, given your behavior last round.

I am a PR.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I am a PR.

I'll be the judge of that.

[Dp101]

Will you claim what your PR does when it is day again?

[Winston Hughes]

Will you claim what your PR does when it is day again?

Maybe. Let's see what happens between now and then.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Random declaration of a PR during the night phase doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

[Winston Hughes]

Random declaration of a PR during the night phase doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

I thought it was pretty obvious from my statements yesterday that I was claiming PR.

[novice]

Random declaration of a PR during the night phase doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

He already softclaimed during the day.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ok. If there's evidence of that then I guess GH looks worse and so does Monty.

I didn't see any such claim.