Futuramafia [Concluded]

[Dp101]

Well, at least we didn't lose a power role that could still do things.

[Zack]

DO NOT POST YET.

[GeneralHankerchief]

-edit- sorry zack

[Zack]

Now you can post.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Anyway, this is what I edited out of my above post.

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Okay, so explanations.

N1, Pelican made that post that a lot of people openly commented was town and I figured he'd be a targeted player. Note that there was no kill that night.
N2, I was considering jailing CrimsonFox because he was toying with the idea of vigging me, but thought better of it and went back to the guy who was jailed the night there was no mafia kill.
N3, I was only able to log on 30 minutes before deadline and quickly submitted Pelican again without any thought.
N4 (last night), I went for a target on nobody's radar just to get some different information in.

[Montmorency]

What was that about, Zack?

[Montmorency]

Note that there was no kill that night.

El Barto died N1.

[GeneralHankerchief]

El Barto died N1.

Apologies, I was under the impression that he was vigged at the time and meant to say there was no *mafia kill that night.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Also, my N4 results count for nothing as I was unable to complete my night action as per feedback PM.

[Montmorency]

You're breaking my heart, General.

[Dp101]

Why, because he blocked your NK? :P

[GeneralHankerchief]

Look, you guys asked for night actions, I gave them. Somebody else can sort all this out and decide if I'm guilty or not (I'm not), there's a bottle of wine with my name on it right now.

[Riedquat]

:/ He is a robot, no surprises there...

[Montmorency]

Yes, actually, I am secretly the Serial Killer known as Pelican, and curse GH for foiling my plans every time! I was so despondent last night that I didn't bother to send kill orders in. Anyway, now that the heat is off I can go ahead and ransom either townies or scums at will. Do as I say, or you get the axe tonight.

[Dp101]

On a more serious note, I don't love GH's claimed actions. If he is mafia with Pelican (which doesn't seem that unlikely right now) then claiming to have jailed him 3 nights in a row is a pretty easy way to keep your claim safe, as well as the no result last night.

[Montmorency]

Too sloppy a claim for scum. Scum would give better distributions than that. A good tell would have been if he claimed to have jailed Khaan N1.

I wonder, assuming the Pelican blocks are true, if this has anything to do with Pelican going full-lurk.

By the way, didn't Pizza claim yesterday that he had been blocked?

[El Barto]

By the way, didn't Pizza claim yesterday that he had been blocked?

With these many rôles and the mafia having access to Mom's industrial might, I'd say they can do a lot of things.

What has that wife-stealing Bender Bending Rodríguez achieved last night, eh?

[Riedquat]

By the way, didn't Pizza claim yesterday that he had been blocked?

Yes, GH debacle started there, when questioned by Atpg if he blocked him, Gh said it wasn't him.

That isn't sloppy, that is crappy at best... now I see the harm in revealing those actions...

With these many rôles and the mafia having access to Mom's industrial might, I'd say they can do a lot of things.

What has that wife-stealing Bender Bending Rodríguez achieved last night, eh?

Nothing at all, I've just learned he is a robot...

[Montmorency]

If GH and Pizza are partners, yesterday's play was perfect to make them both look worse. That can't be. The simplest answer remains that Pizza is lying and wants to spin this into a wasteful GH lynch.

[Askthepizzaguy]

So... Winston Hughes visited johnhughthom last night.

[Montmorency]

So they've been holding private sleepovers all game?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: Montmorency

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[Montmorency]

All Photoshop and no play makes Pizza a scummy boy?

If you're happy with that vote, then maybe you aren't scum. So keep that vote on me all day long, and go sit in the corner. Waiting.

[Montmorency]

Now seriously Pizza, how do you reconcile yesterday's claim of having been blocked with GH's reveal that he hasn't blocked you?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I take the third option. GH always resolves. You don't.

[Montmorency]

I didn't understand any of those sentences.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Gh wasn't blocking me last night because I could move.

He wasn't blocking Winston either, because Winston could move.

Winston wasn't blocking GH, because Winston moved elsewhere.

Winston isn't the mafia roleblocker.

GH should have blocked one of us last night, but he blocked neither. Why would he block no one last night if he's scum?

Let's say he's scum and not the roleblocker, just a goon. Why would the rest of the team not block anyone?

[Montmorency]

Winston wasn't blocking GH, because Winston moved elsewhere.

Why are you thinking in terms of Winston as blocker?

Firstly, you seem to be coming out of somewhere totally out of this world as regards GH or how you are portraying my attitude toward GH. I just want to know, why did you claim to have been blocked yesterday and what do you say now that GH says he couldn't have blocked you on Night 3.

Secondly, you seem very certain that there is a Mafia blocker in addition to GH as town blocker. Why is that?

[Montmorency]

Actually:

Also, my N4 results count for nothing as I was unable to complete my night action as per feedback PM.

This sounds like GH claiming to have been blocked.

What are you trying to do here, Pizza? Some kind of WIFOM using blatant "perfect information"?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Reidquat's claim leads me to believe he's not the mafia roleblocker. Still possible, just extremely doubtful.

Al wasn't blocking anyone the night I tracked him, because he went nowhere. If he's the mafia roleblocker, maybe he missed a night. Possible yet doubtful.

If Pelican were the mafia roleblocker, then GH should have stopped him from blocking me on N3, unless Pelican and GH are scum together. That still doesn't explain why no one got blocked except "GH" on N4. There's no way GH deliberately doesn't block me to get me to believe he's been blocked instead of me. He could just kill me.

The only way Askthepizzaguy is even allowed to track anyone is if the killer is a ninja and thus able to evade my tracking, because it's pointless to take that risk, or there's a godfather in play, or there's a power the scums needed to block more than my own: GH's power.

They could have killed any of Pizza or Winston or GH and chose instead to kill a person with no night action.

What has been presented to me as a straightforward choice is nothing of the sort.

The suggested configuration of all the town powers checking each other, tells me that there was a design in place. I'm supposed to arrive at a certain conclusion, and it's supposed to be really obvious. And even if I didn't arrive at it, if the focus is on GH, Winston, and Pizza, odds are still really really good a townie gets lynched. Plus I've got like 8 live players who want to lynch me. So it doesn't really matter.

Now, if that was all I had to go on, I'd be really stumped as to who was messing with me. I'd suspect the people who suggested specific actions, since they were designed to lead to this conclusion, but it would only be a hunch.

But it's not hard to piece together who was messing with me. You suggested the plan that would have led to no definitive conclusions and simply Winston-GH-Pizza suspecting each other. Your votes led to the town powers getting outed in the first place. The way you're driving the discussion right now.

If GH and Pizza are partners, yesterday's play was perfect to make them both look worse. That can't be. The simplest answer remains that Pizza is lying and wants to spin this into a wasteful GH lynch.

And the narrative you're spinning about GH is inconsistent. If GH is a wasteful lynch, then you think he's town. You say similar things in the posts prior.

I vote you immediately afterward, but then you say this:

Now seriously Pizza, how do you reconcile yesterday's claim of having been blocked with GH's reveal that he hasn't blocked you?

I can't. Not with the information I have. But I also refuse to believe GH does nothing with his blocker power last night, unless I would have been unable to catch the killer altogether, so there's no risk to the scums to leave me alive or not block me.

If I am no risk to the scums, then I am bait.

You are using me as bait while simultaneously trying to get me to lynch someone you say is town.