Visor's Small Mafia Game [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'd put atheotes, Monty, and Al in a shipping container and set it on fire.

I'd ship them so hard.

Here, have a smiley.

[Renata]

^ That right there is why I don't want you to get away with voting Pizza/Khaan tomorrow if Khaan/Pizza is lynched today and not scum, Monty. Are we at least clear on that? I still can't tell.

[Renata]

So pick your honest best guess target today and I'll sheep you. Just be right.

[Renata]

(No pressure. But I'm not going to be here tomorrow to deal with the fallout if it's my call and I'm wrong.)

[Askthepizzaguy]

You may need to clarify which alignment you are reading me as, because as obvious as it may seem given your current vote, there's plenty in your posts which can be interpreted the other way.

[Montmorency]

That right there is why I don't want you to get away with voting Pizza/Khaan tomorrow if Khaan/Pizza is lynched today and not scum, Monty.

I understand, but I can hardly tell you that I will abandon the case, especially if Pizza turns around and calls for a crusade against me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I understand, but I can hardly tell you that I will abandon the case, especially if Pizza turns around and calls for a crusade against me.

Are you going to lynch atheotes tomorrow? I don't think I can rely on you to do that regardless of your alignment.

[Montmorency]

Are you going to lynch atheotes tomorrow?

Would you be willing to die today to see atheotes lynched?

What if, heh, atheotes claims a scan or track result on you?

[Askthepizzaguy]

In response to Renata about who tomorrow if khaan is town, you said:

You, atheotes and Newyn/Bart.

We don't have 4 lynches left.

And if you're saying you'd go for atheotes tomorrow, what's the difference? Why is it so important that we not discuss atheotes "today". "Not today". Your words.

Why is tomorrow better?

If you're willing to go khaan ---> atheotes, why aren't you willing to look at atheotes ----> Khaan?

My guess is because khaan's a critical mislynch that may not happen if it doesn't happen today. But enlighten me.

[Renata]

I understand, but I can hardly tell you that I will abandon the case, especially if Pizza turns around and calls for a crusade against me.

I would never expect you not to fight back if he goes after you directly. What I don't want to see is "Pizza's scum group" -- the people he's got on his scum list -- neglected at LYLO if the current idea doesn't work out. I think we need to shift gears at that point. I've all but given up on reading people in this game; I'm thinking more strategy, and who's mafia with who.

[Renata]

You may need to clarify which alignment you are reading me as, because as obvious as it may seem given your current vote, there's plenty in your posts which can be interpreted the other way.

See my response to Monty.

[Montmorency]

In response to Renata about who tomorrow if khaan is town, you said:


We don't have 4 lynches left.

And if you're saying you'd go for atheotes tomorrow, what's the difference? Why is it so important that we not discuss atheotes "today". "Not today". Your words.

Why is tomorrow better?

If you're willing to go khaan ---> atheotes, why aren't you willing to look at atheotes ----> Khaan?

My guess is because khaan's a critical mislynch that may not happen if it doesn't happen today. But enlighten me.

I said that in response to you and Khaan being town. IOW this is the flip we see following the words "MAFIA VICTORY", in that case of you and Khaan being town.

"Not today". Your words.

Because today is you or Khaan, and my thoughts on atheotes, as I described, depend partially on the flip.

If you're willing to go khaan ---> atheotes, why aren't you willing to look at atheotes ----> Khaan?

I believe it more likely that atheotes is scum if khaan is town, so it isn't that straightforward.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Would you be willing to die today to see atheotes lynched?

What if, heh, atheotes claims a scan or track result on you?

I don't need reminders of my failures. But if I were "willing to die" I'd still have no guarantees anyone follows up.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I believe it more likely that atheotes is scum if khaan is town, so it isn't that straightforward.

Yeah I think it's pretty likely myself, and the order matters. Lynching a scum can't be undone. Promising to lynch a scum tomorrow can be undone.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I couldn't even clear your slot atp if you lynch atheotes and he flips scum, based on everything you've said today.

But if you are town it is the only way.

[Montmorency]

Promising to lynch a scum tomorrow can be undone.

I'm not promising.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm not promising.

No kidding.

It's w/v wagons at the moment, and you're on the wrong side of the aisle.

[Renata]

I keep waiting for a claim of the vig shot, at least. Nobody seems to want to claim it. Curious.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I keep waiting for a claim of the vig shot, at least. Nobody seems to want to claim it. Curious.

If you hum a few bars I can probably fake it.

[Renata]

It goes something like "I killed Zack, oh yes I did, because I'm totally a townie and that was totally the most useful shot to take, oh yes it was."

[Askthepizzaguy]

I've been apologizing for it practically all round.

[Renata]

For realz? Well, then. I'm not sure what to ask, now.

[Renata]

Is there anyone reading you as town, Pizza?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Is there anyone reading you as town, Pizza?

Not even you.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I have worse news for you, that was my only shot.

[Renata]

I know that much, or guessed. That's not what I can't figure out.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Zack said something similar to what's bugging me about Al Sipsclar this round.

Al said that if I'm town, I should be able to read him as town here.

Here's what's wrong with that: Al Sipsclar is not someone who self-clears by their own posts, ever. He's usually one of the smallest posters, and when he does post, it's very fluffy and null. Similar to El Barto. He's not someone who gets widely town read, least of all by me. I literally can't remember the last time I ever town-read Al Sipsclar where we were both townies.

Zack made the same kind of nonsense assertion. If anything, all I do with Zack is mislynch him, early. It makes absolutely no sense to declare that. And you ISO either one, what is so amazingly townie that can be found there?

You'll have to explain it to me, because regardless of how people feel after the fact, I cannot read him until I see his card. And I don't like being told how it's so obvious that someone is town that I should be able to figure it out, no explanation ever given as to why that is.

[Askthepizzaguy]

NETA

El Barto being fluffy and null, not a low poster.

[Renata]

Nah, I was pissed because Zack was not in my personal shit list, not that he couldn't hypothetically be on anyone's. Maybe you should ask Khaan this question, seeing as he had Zack as townie despite apparently having no idea why Zack had voted for him.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Nah, I was pissed because Zack was not in my personal shit list, not that he couldn't hypothetically be on anyone's. Maybe you should ask Khaan this question, seeing as he had Zack as townie despite apparently having no idea why Zack had voted for him.

I'll admit it's a relevant thing to ask khaan.

I still think that slot is town. Khaan didn't necessarily do anything to earn it, but it is what it is.

I don't want to vote there. I think the team is Al-theotes with a generous dollop of Monty. But I got nothing to back it up except their vote pattern, and no one has a good one. I just think some people managed to get town reads out of this mess in spite of that-

Riedquat slot not self pres on d1

And who was pushing GH.