French Revolution Mafia [Concluded]

[Choxorn]

Lolwolves.

Based on his jabbz wagon formed, seems w/v and wouldn't be surprised if wagon was all v. Lolol.

My thoughts exactly, Jabbz wagon looks pure af.

The thing that makes me wonder a little is that Kagemusha's vote switch said he didn't want to lynch a first-timer in the first round (by which I assume he means Manasi, who's never played any games here before). His switch made it 5-4-3 Manasi-BSmith-Jabbz. Was he just trying to help out Jabbz and trying to push Bsmith/Manasi wagons, or did he actively prefer BSmith's lynch to Manasi's for more sinister reasons?

What makes me really wonder is Kage and Monstr were both off-wagon at EoD, and they were around fairly late but disappeared in the last hour or so. That actually makes Manasi look more townie- I'd expect that if it was w/w wagons at least one of them would want to be on either Manasi or Jabbz for bussing credit, at least once it became clear one of those two was getting lynched. But it's possible they just weren't around that late- monstr's last post was just before Kagemusha's, and all he said was that he thought the wagons were v/v. I'm not actually sure which wagons he's referring to- when he said that, it was 5 Manasi 3 Bsmith 3 Jabbz.

Actually, that also makes Manasi look pretty townie, now that I think about it. Monstr acting like that doesn't make much sense if Manasi's his scumbuddy- otherwise I'd expect him to vote BSmith or try harder to save Manasi, it looks a lot more like Monstr was expecting Manasi/BSmith wagons and wanted to get in an "I think they're both villagers," which he'd already know whether or not they were, and he wanted to make himself look good for observing that when one of them inevitably flipped town. That looks like a genuine spew on Monstr's part.

[Renata]

Choxorn's taken himself out of the running for the dayvig, well done well done.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh, since there's a day vig, I can't sit on this any more:

Our faction has strong reason to believe Al Sipsclar is not affiliated with the Royalists. Not only did he suspect Kagemusha while we were discussing vig targets, but he's the one I got to kill Monstrdude. The fact that both kills went through means he probably cannot be involved at all.

It's not a scan of any kind, it's just reasoning, offered freely. You may disagree with it but I'm almost 100 percent sure this is sound.

[Choxorn]

I'd be surprised if Jabbz was the only Royalist on the Manasiwagon, even if the other two dead Royalists weren't on the wagon.

Snerk- His vote is the one that looks the worst to me, even taking into account that he, BSmith, and Jabbz are all on the same faction, per Snerk and BSmith's claims. I also don't like how he said he was voting Manasi to save BSmith but didn't mention Jabbz, that sounds like something a scum would say if he wanted to save his buddy without looking like he was saving his buddy.

Logic- Is dead, and townie.

BSmith- Easily the best-looking of all the living Manasi-voters, his vote for Manasi broke a 3-3-3 tie between Manasi, BSmith, and Jabbz, and it's perfectly understandable he'd vote for Manasi there. Kage and Monstr's EoD posts all make BSmith look pretty townie.

Jabbz- Is dead, and scum.

Arakhor- Voted Manasi right after NotACop did, seemingly out of frustration at how much Manasi was shitposting. As far as I can tell he wasn't around at EoD. While I could easily see town Arakhor voting Manasi for that, especially early on, it could just as easily be scum Arakhor using that as an excuse, and I agree with dp101 that his tone today is bad.

NotACop- Voted for Manasi early on, as far as I can tell his vote is random. He disappeared shortly after. I have no read at all on him, he only has 2 posts in the thread.


In order from most to least scummy, I'd rate them Snerk > Arakhor > NotACop > BSmith.

[Choxorn]

Looked a bit at things said by our dead Royalist friends to see if there was anything juicy or interesting.

Kagemusha:

Not much there, he only made three posts. I've already given my thoughts on his BSmith vote. Not sure what to make of his random vote for Csargo at the start. I'd think more of his interactions with Renata if I wasn't so sure that Renata was town.

Monstrdude:

Most of his posts are jokey and hard to get much out of. He voted for Sooh and stayed there, and poked a bit at a lot of people, but the only concrete read of his was his townread of Manasi. Perhaps a little interesting is his reaction to Monty defending Arakhor from Pizza and Renata:

defense of arakhor noted

But other than him saying he was fairly sure Manasi was town, I can't follow his thought process enough to be able to tell how he felt about anyone.

Jabbz:

His posts have more content than Monstr's and he talked more than Kagemusha did, but basically all of his interactions are with people who voted for him or were suspicious of him. His posting history makes the people who voted for him look even more townie than they already did, but that's about all I can gather from his posts, and "Most or all of Jabbz's voters are town" isn't a ground-breaking new bit of information.

[Choxorn]

I'm only just back. I'll appear tomorrow.

Nothing more to say, have you?

I wonder what the bylaws are if I post in my own thread.

OH WAIT I CAN CHANGE THEM I'M THE MOD LOL

[Csargo]

My thoughts exactly, Jabbz wagon looks pure af.

The thing that makes me wonder a little is that Kagemusha's vote switch said he didn't want to lynch a first-timer in the first round (by which I assume he means Manasi, who's never played any games here before). His switch made it 5-4-3 Manasi-BSmith-Jabbz. Was he just trying to help out Jabbz and trying to push Bsmith/Manasi wagons, or did he actively prefer BSmith's lynch to Manasi's for more sinister reasons?

What makes me really wonder is Kage and Monstr were both off-wagon at EoD, and they were around fairly late but disappeared in the last hour or so. That actually makes Manasi look more townie- I'd expect that if it was w/w wagons at least one of them would want to be on either Manasi or Jabbz for bussing credit, at least once it became clear one of those two was getting lynched. But it's possible they just weren't around that late- monstr's last post was just before Kagemusha's, and all he said was that he thought the wagons were v/v. I'm not actually sure which wagons he's referring to- when he said that, it was 5 Manasi 3 Bsmith 3 Jabbz.

Actually, that also makes Manasi look pretty townie, now that I think about it. Monstr acting like that doesn't make much sense if Manasi's his scumbuddy- otherwise I'd expect him to vote BSmith or try harder to save Manasi, it looks a lot more like Monstr was expecting Manasi/BSmith wagons and wanted to get in an "I think they're both villagers," which he'd already know whether or not they were, and he wanted to make himself look good for observing that when one of them inevitably flipped town. That looks like a genuine spew on Monstr's part.

I've been wondering about Kage's vote as well. I don't know if he thought it was less of a risk to vote BSmith, or if he just wanted another wagon in front of Jabbz. I like your analysis though, a lot more in-depth than my thinking.