French Revolution Mafia [Concluded]

**Al Sipsclar** · 03-19-2017, 04:29

Hmm, vote: El Barto

**Montmorency** · 03-19-2017, 04:53

Originally Posted by autolycus

It looks like I'm going to face the guillotine today, which I'm actually ok with, because if El Barto or Winston is the last scum left and we lynch them, the Montagnards triumph (4-3-3-2).

Accordingly, stipulating that I'm going to be lynched, and stipulating that I don't flip Royalist, which I know is the case, here is my proposal for how to restore balance tonight (and hopefully wipe out the Royalists):

Montagnards: Kill El Barto or Winston, whomever you deem to be more suspicious, protect one of your guaranteed innocents.

Populists: Kill choxorn or al sipsclar, whomever you deem to be more suspicious, protect Zack ( I take him as guaranteed innocent)

Militarists: Kill Snerk, protect one of your own.

Girondins: Kill Lewwyn, protect NAC.

If this goes as planned, this restores the 2-2-2-2 balance, and eliminates four potential scum. If that finishes the Royalists, everybody wins(except whichever team the Royalists kill from, assuming they succeed), since we're allowed to tie at 2.

On the kills, any deviation only strengthens another team. If someone deviates on the protection, they WILL be lynched the next day, if the game doesn't end, and that team will have a target on their back.

Thoughts?

Oh,yes, and vote:Yes

4-way tie is a nice goal, but Zack riding with Winston makes it difficult, and Militarists don't need special protection from kills, vigs, or lynches.

Csargo and Manasi, do you have anything to report on QT? Do you have any particular special ability left other than vig? Who are you not considering for the vig tonight?

**seireikhaan** · 03-19-2017, 11:29

Vote: El Barto

I kinda doubt winston is mafia, just from tone. Not really in love with an autolycus lynch either. Fine with Barto walking the plank.

**Winston Hughes** · 03-19-2017, 11:46

I'm looking at her ISO, as well as the events around the wagons on her and Jabbz, and wondering if Manasi could actually be scum here.

I mean, if we were prepared to accept that khaan or Lewwyn might have been bussing when they voted Jabbz, then why not accept that Jabbz might have been bussing when he voted Manasi?

I note that Manasi did not respond in kind - even as Zack stuck his vote on Jabbz in her defence - until much later on, by which time their two wagons were the only game in town with the deadline looming, and the failure to self-pres would look deeply suspect (as Jabbz, being the host of our previous game here, would know only too well).

And then I'm asking myself where's the scum on the Manasi wagon?

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Jabbz: 8 | Lewwyn (233), seireikhaan (289), Zack (393), Fenn (442), Renata (445), Manasi (448), ATPG (453), Dp101 (457)

Snerk is the only possibility there, and while he's by no means clear, I'd say that all things considered he looks a good deal less scummy than Manasi at this point.

And look at Kage's vote there as well. With Jabbz, Manasi and BSmith in the frame, he votes BSmith right when Manasi is picking up steam.

I think Manasi is very comfortable shitposting as either alignment, but looking at her ISO here I'm not seeing much - if any - evidence of townie thought process or genuine solving.

And then there's her quietude since D2, including on D3 with her weird pop-in followed by her immediate disappearance again after I tried to engage her:

Originally Posted by Manasi

I lied.

NOW I'm here.

Originally Posted by Winston Hughes

Awww. Just when I'm about to hit the sack.

Do you think I'm scum?

As some of you know, I love asking this question when I'm a townie in the poe. The main reason is that a good, reasoned answer in either direction helps me to identify a townie thought process. But, it also has a side benefit of being the kind of direct question that can make scum feel quite uncomfortable.

Simply disappearing after being asked, when you've literally only just reappeared after a long absence, does not look good at all.

**Winston Hughes** · 03-19-2017, 11:47

Someone tell me why I'm wrong here.

**Winston Hughes** · 03-19-2017, 12:02

If Auto is scum here - which circumstantial evidence does point towards - his faking of tone and thought-flow has been exceptional.

And if this 'content to be lynched' thing is really just an attempt to dodge the lynch, then it's remarkably well composed.

Also, as Zack said, for a scumbag he's been more willing than necessary to stick his neck out for no obvious gain.

**Winston Hughes** · 03-19-2017, 12:14

unvote; vote: Manasi

It's the psychology.

People are treating her as lock clear based on the Jabbz bus, and she knows all she has to do is not change their minds.

But because her position wrt to people suspecting her can only get worse by her actions, she's locked up and is afraid to say anything.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 03-19-2017, 13:17

Tally as of post 1118.

El Barto: 4 | Choxorn (1077), autolycus (1078), Al Sipsclar (1111), seireikhaan (1113)
autolycus: 3 | Montmorency (1073), Lewwyn (1097), El Barto (1110)
Montmorency: 1 | Zack (1061)
Winston Hughes: 1| Snerk (1063)
Manasi: 1 | Winston Hughes (1118)

Yes passes with a comfortable margin.

Round ends:

Note: I will be making the final changeover to a new hard drive on my machine in the next few hours. Hopefully this will go well and not impact anything, but worst case scenario I'll be out of contact for EOD. Will phonepost if I have to, rip me if so.

**autolycus** · 03-19-2017, 12:12

Originally Posted by Montmorency

4-way tie is a nice goal, but Zack riding with Winston makes it difficult, and Militarists don't need special protection from kills, vigs, or lynches.

Well, my proposal doesn't necessarily end the game, but it puts us in decent shape. Tomorrow, we can absolutely lynch a Militarist, if that's where the top suspect is. I certainly wouldn't object if the Montagnards choose to vig a Militarist. After all, it could mean a populist victory (3-2-2-1).