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    "There have been violent revolutions in the world before; but the immoderate, violent, radical, desperate, bold, almost crazed and yet powerful and effective character of these [French] Revolutionaries has no precedents. Where did this new race come from? What produced it? What made it so effective? What perpetuates it? Independently of all that can be explained about the French Revolution, there is something unexplained in its spirit and in its acts. I can sense the presence of this unknown object, but despite all my efforts, I cannot lift the veil that covers it."
    ~ Alexis de Tocqueville


    Conclusion

    The Committee of Public Safety had been very active during the past week. Commissioned as a sort of executive body in contrast with the National Convention's legislative characteristics, it had been formed to precisely direct France's efforts against her enemies, both external and - especially during the past week - internal. Due to various political sea changes, retirements, and deaths, the Committee's membership had changed quite a bit since its inception, but its overall mission had not. Even now, during the great whittling down of the Convention members, the Committee still continued its work.

    With the execution of Csargo, for all intents and purposes the National Convention now was the Committee, as they each had the same three - and three only - members: Zack, Choxorn, and Manasi. As the splendor of the Tuileries Palace was much too overly-grand to house three people doing mostly clerical work, the three of them decided to meet in Zack's office (as he was the seniormost member of the Committee).

    "Okay," Zack said, starting things off, "First order of business is continuity of government. With the Convention basically gutted, we need to decide whether to simply refresh the member base or start entirely anew. If we do decide to maintain the Convention structure, the next thing we need to decide is whether the emergency measures will remain in place or whether we will finally adapt Saint-Just's Constitution of 1793."

    "Are you joking?" said Choxorn. "Nearly the entire legislative body of France has just been killed off. Of course we need to maintain the emergency measures!"

    "Right, but our continued presence here and not in a shallow grave somewhere suggests that Csargo was the final Royalist and that the danger has passed," Manasi said.

    "Just so," said Zack, nodding. "Now, Manasi, second order of business?"

    "There's been heavy National Guard activity all day," she replied, reading off a report. "While not unusual in of itself considering the present circumstances, this particular activity is of note because, to my knowledge, it has not been cleared with any of us beforehand and we have no idea as to its purpose. I've sent a clarification request to the Commandant, hopefully we'll get his response shortly."

    "Does he know we're at this address?"

    "Yes."

    "Excellent. Choxorn, what news of the war effort?"

    Choxorn coughed and adjusted his papers. "There's been a stabilization of fronts the past few days. The British have been as annoying as ever, but the rebellion in the Vendée has seen a startling lack of activity lately, and there are reports of little movement on the Eastern front as well. All in all I'd say it's been a rather pleasant surprise and a fairly solid balancing of the scales considering what's been happening in Paris."

    "The drawing-down has made that much of an effect?" Manasi asked.

    "It would seem so."

    "That's... really stange," said Zack. "Almost a bit too fortuitous, if you ask me. I wonder if there's been any coordination going on..."

    At that moment, there was a loud pounding on the door. "Open up, it's the Commandant!" came a voice from outside.

    "I'll go see what he wants," Choxorn said, getting up to go outside. Zack and Manasi made idle chatter for a little while, until about two minutes later Choxorn poked his head back in. "There's been some more violence in this part of the city," he said. "They want to move us to a safer location."

    "Sacre bleu, when will this ever end?" Manasi muttered, but she got out to join Choxorn just as Zack did - though at the very moment she stepped outside, a rough set of hands grabbed her and pulled her off to the side. "I am a member of the National Convention and of the Committee of Public Safety, a delegate elected and entrusted with maintaining the direction of the Revolution! What is the meaning of this?"

    "In the name of the King, you're under arrest!"

    "Wait, what?" She looked around for Zack, also grabbed and under control, and saw that he looked just as puzzled as he was.

    Then they both looked to Choxorn. He looked unconcerned, even smiling. He was also completely free.

    "At the very end, you almost figured it out," he said, a look of vindication on his face. "I looked bad there for a while, what with Jabbz, Monstrdude, and Kagemusha going down before I could blink. But then you all grew complacent. You put petty political rivalries ahead of hunting for the true enemy, not realizing that the absence of the Royalists was what allowed you the freedom to form these factions and rivalries in the first place. Once I survived the violence of 22 Prarial, I knew I was in the clear, so I started coordinating with my allies in the Vendée and the other governments of Europe. I'd say that France has been destroyed enough in your frittering around since 1789 and especially since last year, it would be a shame to destroy any more of the country when order was about to right itself. Luckily, my allies agreed."

    Zack looked angry, Manasi crestfallen. But aside from fruitlessly struggling to get free, it was obvious that there was nothing they could do. The violence of the past week had cowed the citizens of Paris, the Guard had swung over back in favor of the Royalists, and the Convention... well, the Convention was about to become extinct.

    "Don't worry, it won't be all bad," Choxorn said. "I've arranged for Louis XVII and the incoming government to label you all as misguided patriots, not the traitors that you really are. One of you might even get a burial in the Panthéon."

    "History will remember us," Zack said. "Nobody will ever forget what has happened over the past few years. Nothing you do will stop will."

    "Oh, I have no doubt that you're right," Choxorn replied. "However, the thing about history is that it judges you far along in the future... in the present, though, where we live and operate, the Revolution is over. And it will not rise again for quite some time, I think."

    Zack and Manasi continued to defiantly deliver their last words, but when it came down to it, that was all they were: last words. Surely one of the guards would be recording them for posterity - but he would also be writing down what happened next: Zack and Manasi were summarily shot, the Convention was dissolved, and a few days later the son of the last king would be crowned Louis XVII, de facto inheriting the title that had been de jure his ever since his father had been guillotined.

    History would decide whether the brief French Revolution of 1789 to 1793 was the harbinger of a later wave of events to sweep across Europe and the world, or whether it was simply a flash in the pan. In the more immediate moment, though, nobody could deny the main truth: After four-plus years of upheaval and uncertainty, France remained Royalist.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The game has ended with a Royalist victory!

    The factions:

    Montagnards:
    Montmorency
    Jabbz
    Lewwyn
    seireikhaan
    Snerk
    BSmith

    Populists:
    autolycus
    Logic
    Zack
    El Barto
    Sooh/Winston Hughes
    Arakhor

    Girondins:
    Askthepizzaguy
    atheotes
    Choxorn - last survivor
    NotACop
    Al Sipsclar
    Kagemusha

    Militarists:
    Monstrdude
    Manasi
    Renata
    Dp101
    Fenn
    Csargo
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
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    UNBELIEVABLE

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    So first of all a huge congratulations to Choxorn and the rest of the Royalists for pulling it out, and commiserations to the town for a great effort. This game was designed to be very hard to achieve victory, and you should all be commended for giving it your best.

    I'll be detailing much more about this game and my thought process over the next couple of days, but first I have to eat dinner and do some other, non-mafia things. In the meantime, here are all of the quicktopics to tide you over:

    Montagnards:
    https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/MZdmL4CVGPR

    Populists:
    https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/bZfCCR5wiA3

    Girondins:
    https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/tk4rKjPFjVhgU

    Militarists:
    https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/dfJ6Q3t2MbDi

    Committee of Public Safety:
    https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/dZR85fDGZnE5

    Panthéon de Paris (dead chat):
    https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/T86snsEhc6Egv

    Royalists:
    https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/GQTWd5EbDRud
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
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    o.o

    O.

    Hm.

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    Possibly Choxorn's best play. No one could have stopped this.
    @Zack, we should still discuss the game between us but for the moment I'm still reeling.

    Forever enshrine the glory of the N1 heroes, Fenn and Pizza! Special mention to Renata! Vive la France!
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    WTF CHOX THIS IS INSANE.

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    Wow, excellent game, choxorn. The only thing that made me doubt you at all was atheotes reporting in the dead thread that you had had a final watch, but you ever said anything about it publicly. The living players couldn't have known. Brilliant.

    I have no regrets about the Montmorency vig. I wanted to take out the Committee's vig numbers if I died because I knew our faction was never getting another rep there and would naturally get the short end of the stick even absent Monty's regrettable biases :p -- choxorn would have been my third choice, there, lol. Oh well.

    Once again, really well done. Kudos to Manasi for being the only person to have her vote on the last Royalist on the final day.

    Thanks to my teammates for a fun time. :)

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    Omg csargo I'm so sorry, the second you started pushing on me and then Zack being like ARE YOU SURE ABOUT HIM

    oh man

    I should have just played for the faction :(

    I don't think there was any way we were going to get a lynch on Chox though so maybe it was going to end up being you or I anyway that last day.

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    (for manasi:) Best you could have done was a tie, and random chance. Zack had already lost, unknowingly; he had to play as if it was one of you or there was no point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manasi View Post
    Omg csargo I'm so sorry, the second you started pushing on me and then Zack being like ARE YOU SURE ABOUT HIM

    oh man

    I should have just played for the faction :(

    I don't think there was any way we were going to get a lynch on Chox though so maybe it was going to end up being you or I anyway that last day.
    @Manasi Nah, I think this was completely on my head at this point, I failed spectacularly at the end. I should of just stuck with the plan to vote choxorn. I put far too much weight on the fact that Zack, Monty, etc. had cleared him, and tonally he seemed good to me. I had my doubts after reading back through all your posts, but I felt committed, and I feel like an ass at this point. My apologies for doubting you at the end, and for being a at the end as well.

    GGWP Choxorn! Thanks for hosting GH it was an amazing game!
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    I wonder if I can make Csargo cry harder by doing everyone but his ISO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renata View Post
    Wow, excellent game, choxorn. The only thing that made me doubt you at all was atheotes reporting in the dead thread that you had had a final watch, but you ever said anything about it publicly. The living players couldn't have known. Brilliant.
    Hindsight is 20/20, but I think not saying anything publicly was the correct play by Choxorn. As soon as he definitively claims a watch result implicating one of the other players, that day immediately becomes a binary "Choxorn vs. [player implicated]" choice. Granted, he was still likely to prevail in that scenario, but the alternative was him not being on anyone's radar and the day playing out the way it did: Csargo vs. Manasi, with Chox just eating popcorn on the sidelines and coasting to victory.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
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    I think it also needs to be said that, IMO, Choxorn's biggest accomplishment wasn't making it through six lynches without the barest sliver of suspicion so much as him being able to successfully dodge all of the nighttime carnage. There were a lot of vig shots this game, and people used them on a wide variety of targets for a wide variety of reasons - suspicion, playing the factional game, general annoyance, revenge, etc - and yet Choxorn skated by. That's the most impressive part of his victory from my standpoint.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
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    gg choxorn. Didn't bother considering you because I couldn't have won unless one of csargo/manasi is scum, but I doubt I would have voted you anyways.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    Possibly Choxorn's best play. No one could have stopped this.
    @Zack, we should still discuss the game between us but for the moment I'm still reeling.

    Forever enshrine the glory of the N1 heroes, Fenn and Pizza! Special mention to Renata! Vive la France!
    Leave me alone dude.

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