Clearly I am on the losing bandwagon for picking Socialism.Originally Posted by Crandar
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Clearly I am on the losing bandwagon for picking Socialism.
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Re: Preferred Political Government Power?
Communism, because I've always wanted to kill innocents in order to bring on equality.
something is off with this poll. Why are there so many votes?
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Communism is the management of skills, resources, support and laws by communities. It is meant to be localised and democratic.
The moderately disastrous and despotic experiments with state socialism that called themselves communism were much like the pious bringing of Christianity to Africa and America (which killed and enslaved millions).
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Ah, another "that wasn't real communism" argument, I'm sure this is going to go well...
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Only because the Soviet State existed, that meant that the society wasn't based on a communist basis. The whole point of the Soviet Union was supposed to be to make the society ready for communism. Supposedly.
Anyway, I don't understand why leftists should apologise for the Soviet Union. Did she have failures? Yes. Did she made horrible things? Yes. Was she responsible for an incredible advancement of an almost medieval society, which made it capable of being the first to explore the space or eliminate unalphabetism? Also, yes.
What I know is that most Russians seem to prefer the USSR over the good, capitalist Russia of nowadays.
https://www.rt.com/politics/340158-m...gret-ussr-has/
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Right wingers are simplistic people. They prefer the anecdote, the generality, the known association.
"The republicans will draft your kids, poison the air and water, take away your social security and burn down black churches if elected." Gawain of Orkney
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Anecdotes and generalities? What's left for the left-wing to prefer?
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Poppycock. Right wingers are no more or less simplistic --as in craving of cognitive simplicity -- as is the progressive. There are rafts of those persons who revel in me & mine good/you & yours bad or suspect thinking on both (all) ends of the political spectrum. If you sir, appreciate or at least tolerate the ambiguities of reality better than many (and I think you do), be happy in your ability to cope with that degree of uncertainty. Many of our peers -- on both sides -- prefer simpler answers (sometimes even when they know they should not).
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Well it wasn't. Arguably communism cannot work at all beyond the level of a township as the communicative ties manageable by individuals cognitively cannot work well beyond such a communal level without some interposed organizing system -- which then undercuts anything of a true communist nature.
I think Marxism falls on its ear because of the givens used as a predicate to the general theme espoused by Marx (and officially Engels). The stability enacted by "village culture," which was in many ways a practical communism, was not without its merits.
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
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Well, at least in the Americas is was the virgin field epidemics that accompanied the missionaries that did most of the killing (sadly, I have to note that the word is most as pogroms too accompanied the missionary efforts).
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
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Well, observing the current trend, I will soon join you. Between m first comment and the second one, Monarchy has suddenly gained 10 other fans, apart from Greyblades.
I thought that bots were handled by dubious Korean salesmen, not by political activists with absolutist tendencies.
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