UK General Election 2017

[Idaho]

Why is Scotland flocking from SNP to Conservative. Do they always have to be opposite of England.

It's because big chunks of Scotland are pro union and the SNP are promising another independence vote (watch that pledge be ditched).

[Idaho]

Please stay while we savour your humiliation, Britain tells May
09-06-17


THE UK has ordered Theresa May to remain in position for a few weeks so it can relish her humiliation.

The prime minister, whose 2017 election gambit is expected to replace the Titanic as a popular metaphor for hubris, has been told to stick around so we can see the pain in her eyes.


Voter Julian Cook, from Canterbury, said: “She’s not allowed to resign. Not until I’ve drunk my fill.

“She still has to do all her normal jobs but just with that beautifully broken body language. Maybe a tremor in her voice and a bit of a shuffly walk.
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http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politi...20170609129137

[Fragony]

How long can Theresa last? What a mess she's made. 10 days go until negotiations for brexit start and she's left the country without a government.

Why complain, things are better when they remain complicated, nobody can fuck it up

[Idaho]

Why complain, things are better when they remain complicated, nobody can fuck it up

I'm not complaining. I'm gloating unbearably

[LittleGrizzly]

For all the nonsense about her being the best Brexit negotiator... she sounded like a broken woman in Maidenhead last night, can we really have this woman negotiating Brexit?

No, clearly it will be the Tories but surely it has to be someone else. Boris is surely too much of a clown to trust with this, hence why he wasn't in the final running last time. David Davis was my thought early into election night... not that I like, just who could.

[Idaho]

You Americanos don't know what you are missing. This is the stage that our prime minister gave her victory speech from. That's her on the far left. (ignore the banner - that is a notification of a different seat.



That is not shopped And her city name means "hymen".

[LittleGrizzly]

Can't quite remember the name but I think bucket head party it was called, that was my favourite, the one in black.

[HopAlongBunny]

Congratulations on a new gov't.!
Now the politics really begins.
Any hints on what sort of policy agenda they might agree on?

[Greyblades]

Surely you are trolling? If so, hats off.

There's no silver medal in politics.

How does it feel knowing Corbyn came second where Blair came first?

[Idaho]

There's no silver medal in politics.

How does it feel knowing Corbyn came second where Blair came first?

You are right. This is May's big day. She's going to be captain of HMS Great Britain for the next 5 years.

[Idaho]

Congratulations on a new gov't.!
Now the politics really begins.
Any hints on what sort of policy agenda they might agree on?

May won't last the year. Probably see the Tories elect a new leader in the autumn. The DUP are at best unreliable partners. At worst a total liability. Imagine a fringe party of westboro baptists.

The next tory leadership election won't be the post brexit stunned agreement to mend the rift in the party and find a compromise leader - like last time. This one will be bloody.

[Montmorency]

There's no silver medal in politics.

Orthogonally wrong.

There is such a proliferation of "medal" positions - that's the whole essence of politics.

[Greyblades]

Look up what metaphors are Monty.

You are right. This is May's big day. She's going to be captain of HMS Great Britain for the next 5 years.

Careful, every fault in May you highlight makes Corbyn's loss to the woman even more emasculating.

[Montmorency]

Look up what metaphors are Monty.

What do you think that metaphor means?

[Idaho]

Look up what metaphors are Monty.



Careful, every fault in May you highlight makes Corbyn's loss to the woman even more emasculating.

Even for you this is desperate and confused.

[LittleGrizzly]

After coming across it a few times I have just learned to congratulate conservative supporters on their victory if they seem quite pleased, I am in a good enough place to let it go right now...

[Idaho]

After coming across it a few times I have just learned to congratulate conservative supporters on their victory if they seem quite pleased, I am in a good enough place to let it go right now...

This victory will be the gift that keeps on giving. This is a victory that would make Pyrrhus of Epirus shudder and count his blessings

[Greyblades]

What do you think that metaphor means?

A metaphor means a figure of speech whereby an action or attribute is applied to a subject that is not literally applicable, differentiated by simile by the absence of disclaimer.

My use of it means that the inability to gain a majority through its own seats or through coalition means that the second place party gains nothing of it's own value. Anything that Labour achieves from this will only be from what others allow.

Though in retrospect that would apply to the Torys as well

Even for you this is desperate and confused.

Says the man massaging his bruised ego by trying to persuade himself, and anyone who will listen, that having a catastrophe upgraded into merely a major defeat through the self sabotage of his opponent counts as a victory.

...wait I might be thinking of grizzly.

[Elmetiacos]

Congratulations on a new gov't.!
Now the politics really begins.
Any hints on what sort of policy agenda they might agree on?

The only reasonable course forward is to abandon this "hard Brexit" stance (which until last year May didn't believe in and probably still doesn't) The Tories tried to go into the election as the hardline, foreigner-hating nationalist party and it backfired on them, plus if they need the DUP votes, the DUP don't like the idea of barbed wire at the Irish border and finally UKIP are no longer an electoral threat to anyone so there's no reason to appease their voters.

That's what should happen, but politicians can be unbelievably stupid...

[Montmorency]

A metaphor means a figure of speech whereby an action or attribute is applied to a subject that is not literally applicable, differentiated by simile by the absence of disclaimer.

My use of it means that the inability to gain a majority through its own seats or through coalition means that the second place party gains nothing of it's own value. Anything that Labour achieves from this will only be from what others allow.

Having more seats rather than fewer, and preventing the opposition from maintaining a majority, are tangible achievements that improve the standing of the party in localities and nationally, in the present and in the future.

You seem to imagine that only the party with a plurality or majority of seats has a place in government, which is plainly wrong.

[Greyblades]

I know that a party in this situation that cannot achieve a majorty and has no possibility for a majority coalition is utterly incapable of ensuring the passing of any law or changing any policy that the first place position does not agree to without external influence.

@Elmetiacos I do not think it is a good idea to abandon the possibility of going with a hard brexit, to desire it is not wise but to rule out the option is to surrender all the power in the negociations with the EU.

Parties promising no hard Brexit are basically saying Junker can offer us as shit a deal as he could desire, refuse to compromise in any way and we cannot say no.

[Idaho]

A metaphor means a figure of speech whereby an action or attribute is applied to a subject that is not literally applicable, differentiated by simile by the absence of disclaimer.

My use of it means that the inability to gain a majority through its own seats or through coalition means that the second place party gains nothing of it's own value. Anything that Labour achieves from this will only be from what others allow.

Though in retrospect that would apply to the Torys as well


Says the man massaging his bruised ego by trying to persuade himself, and anyone who will listen, that having a catastrophe upgraded into merely a major defeat through the self sabotage of his opponent counts as a victory.

...wait I might be thinking of grizzly.

Oh dear. Someone's missed their midday nap. Bottle of milk and straight to bed young man. Let the grown ups talk.

[Fragony]

After coming across it a few times I have just learned to congratulate conservative supporters on their victory if they seem quite pleased, I am in a good enough place to let it go right now...

You could also just don't give a fuck and simpy don't care. It makes no difference ayway whaf you vote for

[Beskar]

UKIP was a single issue party what they wanted they got, probably not as it looks now, there is no reason for it to exist anymore. It's going to be interesting to see how all of this turns out. You Brits sure aren't boring

Given how Conservatives turned into UKIP too (with a reactionary bent), the UKIPPERS are now sleeping with the fishes, which is a good thing. Out of the main parties, UKIP were the only party worse than the Tories.

[Greyblades]

Oh dear. Someone's missed their midday nap. Bottle of milk and straight to bed young man. Let the grown ups talk.

... ugh.
@Husar! Get in here! I need a cleverer breed of troll to bash my head against.

[Idaho]

Given how Conservatives turned into UKIP too (with a reactionary bent), the UKIPPERS are now sleeping with the fishes, which is a good thing. Out of the main parties, UKIP were the only party worse than the Tories.

UKIP were never a main party except in the media, who were obsessed with them. They are just fringe Tories.

[Fragony]

Given how Conservatives turned into UKIP too (with a reactionary bent), the UKIPPERS are now sleeping with the fishes, which is a good thing. Out of the main parties, UKIP were the only party worse than the Tories.

Of course they are gone, they had only one objective

[Beskar]

Says the man massaging his bruised ego by trying to persuade himself, and anyone who will listen, that having a catastrophe upgraded into merely a minor defeat through the self sabotage of his opponent counts as a victory.

Corbyn is going to have his Battle of Thermopylae moment. Those thinking he will be replaced will be disappointed.

[Greyblades]

The greeks lost thermopylae.

He wont be replaced, but the complacency in the Tories will likely be gone next time and against any half decent conservative leader he will be outclassed.

This was his big chance to rise against the backdrop of a conservative disaster and he just wasn't good enough.

He likely wont get another

[Fragony]

Corbyn is going to have his Battle of Thermopylae moment. Those thinking he will be replaced will be disappointed.

I put 20 on that he will, feel free to join the bet