XCOM Mafia [Concluded]

[Zack]

PLAYER LIST

Alive: 4

autolycus
El Barto
Fredwood
Nippleman (formerly Winston Hughes)

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Lynched: 6

D1 - Jowy. Faceless. Town.

D2 - Askthepizzaguy. Sectoid. Town. Brought back to life and died again on D3.

D3 - Manasi. Grenadier. Mafia.

D4 - BSmith. Psi Operative. Mafia.

D5 - Logic. ADVENT Trooper. Town.

D6 - Walrein (formerly Dp101). Archon. Town.

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Killed: 7

N1 - n/a

N2 - crimson_snow. Muton. Town.

D3 - GeneralHankerchief. Sectoid. Town.

N3 - Sooh. ADVENT Trooper. Town.

N4 - Montmorency. ADVENT Shieldbearer. Town.
N4 - novice. Sharpshooter. Mafia.

n5 - Cuthillius. Viper. Town.

n6 - Csargo. ADVENT Trooper. Town.

[Zack]

You must read these rules before playing.

Setup

~ The Town are the ALIEN INVADERS intent on conquering Earth. They seek to eliminate the mafia and any hostile third-parties. Most players are town. A sample town Role PM is shown below:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Knowing that my past surgical experience is limited, I'm sure the crew appreciates I hone my skills on fallen ADVENT before triaging our own wounded. To the uninitiated the common ADVENT Trooper is seemingly human, the aliens have disguised its most glaring divergence from the human form with with a carefully designed helmet.





ADVENT Trooper

Player: < whoever >

Faction: TOWN

Lore: http://xcom.wikia.com/wiki/ADVENT_Trooper


Team Victory Conditions:

The Town achieves victory based on its ability to achieve the goals listed below.

- The Mafia (XCOM) are eliminated.

- Any and all hostile Third-Parties are eliminated.

- At least one member of the Town survives the game.


Abilities:

None - you are vanilla town.


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If you have any questions, ask me privately.

~ The Mafia are an XCOM SQUAD trying to kick the aliens back into space. They must eliminate the town and any hostile third-parties.

~ There may or may not be Third-Party factions in the game. This may take the form of serial killers or something else, but there is guaranteed to be no second mafia team or cult. They win by eliminating the town, mafia, and any other hostile third-parties.

~ There may or may not be Neutral factions in the game. Neutral parties have their own goals. They are not necessarily a threat to mafia, town, or third-party victories.

~ There may or may not be factions which do not exactly fit into any of the above categories.

~ You cannot brute force the game using a spreadsheet, mass role reveal, or your knowledge of the universe.

~ Character name and faction will be immediately revealed when a player dies, though any abilities will generally not be revealed.


Posting and Communication (READ THIS SECTION)

~ Posting is allowed during both the Day and Night phases. However, there will be locked periods around the deadlines where you will not be allowed to post. These will usually be short and are for me to get updates ready and stuff.

~ You are NOT allowed to post your Role PM in the thread. Do not reference it, explicitly or in a way that bends around the spirit of "don't discuss your Role PM." Do not speculate what is in someone's Role PM, do not refer to any wording or pictures in your Role PM, hell I'd prefer if you refrain from saying "Role PM" altogether. That's not what this game is about.

~ Private communication with other players is forbidden, unless I explicitly tell you otherwise. You cannot privately discuss the game with living players, dead players, or people who are not in the game. This includes private messages, QuickTopics, instant messaging, and so on. The only person you can talk to about the game privately is me, or your fellow players in a host-created QuickTopic I give you access to.

~ Do not edit your posts for any reason. If you edit a post containing a vote, that vote will be rendered invalid.

~ Do not quote any private communications or post any QuickTopic links in the public game thread. Do not directly quote anything I say to you in private (especially your Role PM and/or night results). Don't say "Zack told me my action failed," instead say "my action failed". The first is a rule break, the second is fine. This also applies to screenshots.

~ Unless I explicitly tell you otherwise, if you are dead do not post at all or thank any posts. On that note, I don't care if living players thank posts.

~ You are expected to vote each day, and post at least once each Day phase - more is preferred, but that is the absolute minimum. If you fail to meet those requirements, I reserve the right to remove you from the game immediately (via substitution or modkill).

~ Do not talk about substitutions or modkills in the thread. Don't speculate on it (whether or not it's happened), don't mention it at all. The extent you can acknowledge this is that it happened, e.g. "I thought Bob was town but his replacement rubs me the wrong way". Examples of rule breaks would be "I think Bob subbed out because blah" or "Bob should sub out".

~ Do not ask me any questions in the game thread, I will ignore them. Whether it is a genuine question, an attempt to angleshoot yourself clear or derpclear yourself, I don't give a shit, don't do it. Ask me in private and I will answer publicly or privately as appropriate.

~ Treat your fellow players with respect. Don't be a dick. This is, after all, a game people play for fun, with no actual consequences. You are allowed to criticize ideas and suggestions, but not the people behind those ideas and suggestions. Follow the forum rules.

I WILL HAVE A LOW TOLERANCE FOR ANYONE WHO BREAKS ANY OF THE ABOVE RULES.

READ CAREFULLY.

FOLLOW THE RULES.


Day and Night

~ Day is typically around 48 hours, and Night is usually about 24 hours. I won't deviate too much from this, and deadlines will usually be at 11:30 pm US Eastern time. Phases may be extended for whatever reason, but they will never end prematurely. My schedule is inconsistent, but I will do my best.

~ There are no abilities which affect deadline timing.

~ A timer showing the exact amount of time remaining in the phase will be provided at each phase update and with each posted tally.

~ Vote tallies will be posted throughout the Day as I am able. Players are free to make and post their own tallies (including novice's plugin), but I will not use them and they should be taken with a grain of salt. Do not intentionally post misleading tallies.

~ During the Day, players vote for each other (e.g. Vote: Zack). Vote tags are mandatory (Vote: < player >), a simple bolding will not suffice and I won't count it. Unvoting is not required - simply make a new vote. I don't care about color. Voting for No Lynch is allowed. Abstaining is not allowed at any time.

THE ABOVE IS VERY IMPORTANT!

~ There may or may not be abilities which can be used during the Day phase.

~ During the Night phase, players send in night actions if they have an ability which requires one. Night action feedback will be minimal, and you might not always receive a PM from me.

I think that covers it. If you have any questions, CTRL+F the rules first, then ask me (in private).

[Zack]

The game has now officially begun and you can start posting and voting.


Everyone has their PMs. The game has started. If you have any questions, PM me.

Read the rules.

Seriously, read the rules.

Remember to be civil and that this is a game -- don't be a jerk.

glgl and have fun

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It is now Day One.

Voting ends in:

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Living Players: 17

@Askthepizzaguy
@autolycus
@BSmith
@Champ
@crimson_snow
@Csargo
@Cuthillius
@Dp101
@El Barto
@Fredwood
@Jowy
@Logic
@Manasi
@Montmorency
@novice
@Sooh
@Winston Hughes

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Dead Players: 0

[Champ]

Henlo xcom
you stinky humans
go get flanked, ugly

[Champ]

posting at night

[Champ]

Vote: Manasi

[Csargo]

Champ, hi.

[Manasi]

Vote: Manasi

Vote: Champ

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: Manasi

Vote: Champ

This might mean nothing. Votes in red happened last game. But that's not the color that caught my eye and stuck in my brain.

[novice]

Pizza's read on Champ checks out. Champ did start posting immediately and then commented on the night posting rule afterwards.

Henlo xcom
you stinky humans
go get flanked, ugly

posting at night

[Zack]

End of Day 1.


"I heard a rumor that Jowy wants less balaten."

Oh, how quickly those pesky rumors spread. Despite Jowy's earnest protestations that he indeed wanted more balaten and that this was all a gross misunderstanding, it was too late. His time was up.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Jowy was a Faceless!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

He was town!

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It is now Night One.

Deadline for night orders in:

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Living Players: 16

@Askthepizzaguy
@autolycus
@BSmith
@Champ
@crimson_snow
@Csargo
@Cuthillius
@Dp101
@El Barto
@Fredwood
@Logic
@Manasi
@Montmorency
@novice
@Sooh
@Winston Hughes

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Dead Players: 1

Jowy - Faceless

[Zack]

You can now post.

Night is a little longer than usual, because my schedule tomorrow is a bit different than I was expecting.

[El Barto]

Oh look, we can post at night! And I have to go to bed! Yay!

[Askthepizzaguy]

I needed to see that flip.

Not what I wanted to see on the other side, but out of any d1 mislynch outcome, that one was definitely the most useful to my ability to solve this, and I still firmly do not think Csargo was a better option.

If I had to do it over again I wouldn't even move my vote to dp101: If it randed and Jowy lynched, he flips town and it's much more difficult to analyze the end of round and the day leading up to it.

[Montmorency]

lololol this is textbook scum-Pizza

Yeah but it also depends on what he does do. And it also puts our suspicions on record as being genuine pressure we'd be willing to kill for, not merely scum distancing.

That's just as important to the solve. Open-mind and willing to change good, pure wishy-washy not good and makes it harder for townies to see who actually is willing to do what.

Not moving my vote. I'm gonna let it be 2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2.

I vow upon pain of being called a wolf, I'm not moving my vote.

But it needed to be said. Monty, you're just bad, bro.

Just kill me tonight, you're too strong for me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Looking back at people who had any opinion at all on Jowy, ctrl+F shows this:

Page 2:
Manasi is the first to call Jowy town based on his obviously fake fakepeek.
Page 3:
Jowy gives reads but no one called him townie.
Page 4:
Barto scumreads Jowy
Dp reads Jowy slight town.
Barto insists I take a look at Jowy-crimson
Page 5
Cuth puts Jowy as town
"jowy a nice free-flowing game BUT going in the right directions, has a mildly cocksure aura to him that i like"
Novice townreads Jowy as a top town read.
dp backs off his town read of Jowy a bit as a response to my push
novice gives reason for townreading jowy
after iso, novice suggests that jowy might have deliberately pocketed him.
Page 6
Winston townreads Jowy
" Jowy because if this is his scum game, it's improved radically since I saw it last. "
crimson also questions jowy townread.
novice asks jowy to explain his behavior / process conflict.
Cuth defends Jowy.
Page 8
Csargo votes Jowy after I push the issue.
Monty doesn't push Jowy.
dp waffles a bit on Jowy.
Barto votes Jowy to tie the game 3-3 csargo-jowy
Champ pushes Jowy to 4
dp suggests ready to vote Jowy but champ's vote makes him hesitate
dp again suggests Jowy is scummy.
Page 9
Manasi defends Jowy unconvincingly
I force dp101 to self-pres on Jowy or be lynched, so he does.

[Cuthillius]

I needed to see that flip.

Not what I wanted to see on the other side, but out of any d1 mislynch outcome, that one was definitely the most useful to my ability to solve this, and I still firmly do not think Csargo was a better option.

If I had to do it over again I wouldn't even move my vote to dp101: If it randed and Jowy lynched, he flips town and it's much more difficult to analyze the end of round and the day leading up to it.

i agree that csargo and dp were bad lynches

i posit that jowy was also a bad lynch

but at that monty is also a bad lynch, given his posts afterwards

lessons learned

[Dp101]

I feel like trying to guess the setup based on the flavour for a bit, if you have no patience for that sort of thing, please skip the below spoiler.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Based on the opening post describing the scum as an XCOM team, I'm guessing that the scum's roles are the 4 basic classes in the game. Of those 4, the specialist (healing/hacking focussed class) is probably the easiest to guess, and is almost certainly a doctor of some kind.
Remote chance of rolecop/watching/tracking abilities due to drones, but I doubt it. Grenadier has 2 strong possibilities. One is that he roleblocks or jails via his suppression ability, as in-game it is an effective way to lock enemies down. The other is that he's a strongman based purely on the size of his gun and explosives. Sharpshooter is more difficult, my guess is maybe tracker because snipers thematically watch everything with their sights, but I'm unsure. Reaper (shotgun/sword user) is the hardest, as they don't do much other than kill. Maybe a vig shot?

[Zack]

End of Night 1.


crickets chirping

No corpse is found.

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It is now Day Two.

Voting ends in:

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Living Players: 16

@Askthepizzaguy
@autolycus
@BSmith
@Champ
crimson_snow
@Csargo
@Cuthillius
@Dp101
@El Barto
@Fredwood
@Logic
@Manasi
@Montmorency
@novice
@Sooh
@Winston Hughes

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Dead Players: 1

Jowy - Faceless

[Zack]

You can post now.

[Cuthillius]

i n t e r e s t i n g

[Askthepizzaguy]

No death means it's very likely someone townie-looking got doctored properly.

Which means I am going to reiterate my point about the top 4 posters not needing to be pushed today.

Also @Sooh, my love, my decision about you today will be based on what you put into it. Pre-emptively deciding you're not going to try looks bad.

Just find townies and find scums. I won't even deluge you with accusations. Have some space. Do your thing.

Then I'll judge.

It's as fair as I can be.

Same with Fredwood. On the chance his behavior is self-focused townie, my advice to him to break our deadlock is to have a better day 2. My feelings are on record, I don't have to reiterate them.

[Zack]

End of Day 2.


Zack is tired and has a headache, and you care more about the flip than shitty flavor anyways.

Askthepizzaguy was lynched in a close vote between him and novice.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Askthepizzaguy was a Sectoid!

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He was town!

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It is now Night Two.

Deadline for night orders in:

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Living Players: 15

@autolycus
@BSmith
@Champ
@crimson_snow
@Csargo
@Cuthillius
@Dp101
@El Barto
@Fredwood
@Logic
@Manasi
@Montmorency
@novice
@Sooh
@Winston Hughes

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Dead Players: 2

Jowy - Faceless
Askthepizzaguy - Sectoid

[Zack]

You can post now.

Note the timer, getting us back to 11:30 pm EDT.

[Dp101]

God I'm trash.

[Zack]

End of Day 3.


Manasi was lynched in an explosive vote.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Manasi was a Grenadier!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

She was mafia!

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It is now Night Three.

Deadline for night orders in:

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Living Players: 12

@autolycus
@BSmith
@Csargo
@Cuthillius
@Dp101
@El Barto
@Fredwood
@Logic
@Montmorency
@novice
@Sooh
@Winston Hughes

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Dead Players: 5

Jowy - Faceless
crimson_snow - Muton
Askthepizzaguy - Sectoid
GeneralHankerchief - Sectoid
Manasi - Grenadier

[Zack]

You can post.

[Zack]

End of Day 4.


BSmith was lynched in a close one.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

BSmith was a Psi Operative!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

He was mafia!

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It is now Night Four.

Deadline for night orders in:

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Living Players: 10

@autolycus
@Csargo
@Cuthillius
@Dp101
@El Barto
@Fredwood
@Logic
@Montmorency
@novice -- POISONED!
@Winston Hughes

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Dead Players: 7

Jowy - Faceless
crimson_snow - Muton
Askthepizzaguy - Sectoid
GeneralHankerchief - Sectoid
Manasi - Grenadier
Sooh - ADVENT Trooper
BSmith - Psi Operative