Biblical Creation vs Evolution- the age of the Earth

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Biblical Creation vs Evolution

Worldviews

Definition of Science- is knowledge gained by testing study and observation. Science cannot be wrong and is things we can know for sure and is repeatable and testable. [Though our conclusions may be wrong]

Definition of Religion- beliefs about the cause concern purpose of the universe.


Both creation and evolution are religions based on our worldview, we cannot test a monkey evolving into man, complex structures evolving, the big bang, the origin of life or fish turning into amphibians. Nor can we test Noah flood or the creation week. These are both religious worldviews competing for how to understand the world around us in our time. One is based on the belief that this world created itself, mother nature created us no outside intelligence was needed only the laws that govern the universe and normal processes. The other is outside intelligence was needed to create the world, catastrophe both are not scientific beliefs but religious worldviews.

Our worldview is our basic beliefs about the universe and drives how we interpret the evidence. When I observe a magician cut a person in half, I conclude it was a trick, that no one was really cut in half regardless of what I thought I saw. I draw the conclusion not because of the evidence but because my worldview prevents me from drawing the wrong conclusion. If your neighbor says he saw a UFO last night your worldview will immediately kick in and help you process and interpret the evidence, as your neighbor provides more details you will begin to form hypothesis based on your worldview. Maybe she saw a top secret government aircraft, maybe she was drinking again, maybe it was just Venus or a weird light from the sky. However if ones worldview already does believe in ufos and aliens, than you will see this as more evidence to back up your belief.


This is why creation scientist and evolutionary scientist can look at the same evidence and come to completely different conclusion. For example there are trillions of dead plant and animals laid down by water fossilized all over the earth that is a fact that is observable. Based on the belief system of the researcher one says look, it must have taken billions of years to create all these fossils, uniformitarnism, slowly over millions of years. One animal fall in a lake and was buried and fossilized than later another was caught in a local flood, than another by a surging river etc evidence for billions of years it had to take that long to create all these fossils what more evidence do you need for millions of years. Than another researcher says wow, look trillions of fossils rapidly laid down by water all over the earth, just what you would expect from a global flood, what more evidence do you need the bible is true. The evidence is the same the conclusion is different based on their worldview. So what everyone needs to decide [and please think for yourself dont just believe what you are told] Is who makes better sense of the evidence? Were does the evidence as a whole fit better? Who has to make adjustments more and invoke more miracles to save there religion?
http://creation.com/refuting-evoluti...ion-facts-bias

Both sides have problems still unanswered as we are working to explain the unobservable past, but there is so much we do know that everyone should be able to make a educated decision.


Defining Evolution

Evolutionist will often point to adaptation, natural selection , survival of the fittest, change in gene frequency and other similar biological changes in organisms as evidence for evolution. Not one of these is rejected by creationist or the bible. Creationist accept and agree with all of the above. If evolutionist maintain evolution is nothing but “change” or natural selection, than me and all other creationist are evolutionist.

“The point is, however, that an organism can be modified and refined by natural selection, but that is not the way new species and new classes and new phyla originated”
-The Altenberg 16: An Exposé of the Evolution Industry by Suzan Mazur North Atlantic Books, Berkeley, CA, 2010

But we argue those changes dont have anything to do with evolution properly defined. Evolutionist are able to pull a bait and switch by defining evolution two separate ways. Because they control public education and almost all media, they can then give the kids evidence for natural selection, or adaptation, and sell that as “evolution.” they can than on a separate page, define evolution in a completely different way, yet use natural section as evidence for the second definition of witch there is no evidence.

"If evolution is to occur . .living things must be capable of acquiring new information, or alteration of their stored information." —George Gaylord Simpson, "The Non-prevalence of Humanoids," in Science, 143, (1964), p. 772.

Evolutionist claim that evolution is the cause of the origin of all life and the genetic information of organisms through history. They say the original organisms were simple life forms that evolved into greater complexity over time. Originally there was no genetic information for complex systems such as wings, brains, ears etc the genetic code for these evolved over time. Evolution must than expsalin the origin of all the biological systems, all the proteins, and the genetic information to produce these. It does not have to be able to show the formation of an entire organ, but it does need a mechanism that can increase information and complexity. Yet there is not one example of increasing information or the origin of a single novel functional gene, enzyme, or any sort of biological system despite their best efforts. Evolutionist claim to exspalin origins, so origins is what they must be able to show through an evolutionary mechanism.

“From the first cell that coalesced in the primordial soup to the magnificent intricacies of Homo sapiens, the evolution of life—as everyone knows—has been one long drive toward greater complexity. The only trouble with what everyone knows…is that there is no evidence it’s true.”
-Onward and Upward? By Lori Oliwenstein|Tuesday, June 01, 1993 Discover Magazine

"Do we, therefore, ever see mutations going about the business of producing new structures for selection to work on? No nascent organ has ever been observed emerging, though their origin in pre-functional form is basic to evolutionary theory. Some should be visible today, occurring in organisms at various stages up to integration of a functional new system, but we don’t see them. There is no sign at all of this kind of radical novelty. Neither observation nor controlled experiment has shown natural selection manipulating mutations so as to produce a new gene, hormone, enzyme, system, or organ."
—Michael Pitman, Adam and Evolution (1984), pp. 67-68

Scientist who are Biblical Creationist

There are thousands of PhD scientist that believe in biblical creation despite the near total control of education [indoctrination] system by evolutionist through the courts. Here are some of the better known creationist and organizations.

http://www.creationresearch.org/ over 1 thousand members with scientific degrees over 600 with Phd's.
650 with phd
http://www.creation.or.kr/ at one point had 2,000 phd with 200 non phd
http://www.dissentfromdarwin.org/ not creation but scientist who don't believe in evolution last I herd over 800
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/bios/ list of many phd creation scientist
http://www.answersingenesis.org/ run by many phd scientist
http://creation.com/ run by many phd creation scientist
http://www.icr.org/ run by many phd creation scientist
there are many more but hopefully this will show as a example many scientist reject evolution.


What is Biblical Creation?

I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. - C. S. Lewis

We believe Noah's flood was global killing all land dwelling life at that time. We believe this is confirmed by the fact that there are trillions of dead plants and animals laid down by water in massive graves all over the earth. We believe the earth was created in 6 literal days thousands of years ago. We believe this is confirmed by the many dating methods that show the earth cannot be millions of years old and the false assumptions and problems with dating methods such as radiometric dating. We believe all animals produce after their own kind and all the genetic information was there in the original created kinds. We believe this is verified by science and observation.

I believe there was a original perfect creation that is now falling apart because of sin and the curse. Now death, disease, mutations have entered gods once perfect creation. This is why we see stars blowing up, people and animals dying, decaying and breaking down. Everything tends towards disorder, complex to disorder. Evolution says the opposite, disorder to order, incoplex to greater complexity over time, they cannot be further from each other. Evolution claims it all started from nothing that exploded in a big bang that produced hydrogen which is a order less tasteless invisible gas. So they say out of this gas stars started to form planets and than galaxies the higher elements were created, than the earth formed a hard crust surface were it rained for billions of years on the rocks that magically created life. That life was able to eat, reproduce etc, than that single celled organism gave rise to all life on earth so it increase in complexity. So matter must be able to go from simple to complex, disorder to order, if evolution is true. Really evolutionist must believe that hydrogen gas, a order less tasteless, invisible gas, given long enough will turn into people. Creation says the opposite complexity and order to disorder. The major creation organization run by PHD scientist and peer reviewed journals are linked below.

https://creation.com/
http://www.icr.org/
https://answersingenesis.org/?sitehist=1511527411277


https://answersingenesis.org/answers/research-journal/
https://www.creationresearch.org/
https://creation.com/journal-of-creation


Biblical Creation- Natural Selection and Speciation


“What Darwin really accounted for was not the origin, but the extermination of species.”
-C.S Lewis


I am a biblical creationist I believe everything was created to reproduce after its own kind, dogs produce dogs, cats produce cats etc There is alot of variety in these animals so that a dog, coyote, and wolf have a common ancestor, but it was from the original dog kind, they have know varied and produce the many kinds today. But all the information was already present the variation we see in animals today was already present in the original producing kind.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/arti...tion-evolution
http://creation.com/refuting-evoluti...rsus-evolution
https://creation.com/variation-infor...e-created-kind



So in the above picture on the left we see how variation can lead to genetic change in a population. The original created pair of dogs had the genes for both Long [L] and short fur [S]. They produced a variety in their offspring where some received only Long fur genes and some only short fur genes. This is a very basic example of how variation within the kind that eventually leads to speaciation [dog, wolf, coyote] happens. The picture on the right is an example of this. The original dog kid's descendants spreads out over various terrain and those with short fur survive better than those with longer fur in the hotter climate and natural selection favors those with short fur and the long fur die out. In the north the long fur have the advantage and the short fur die out. But all the original information to produce the genes for long fur and short fur are already present in the original biblical kind.

“natural selection is therefore likely to be important in evolution. However, natural selection does not explain the origin of new variants, only the process of changes in their frequency....But evolution is more than merely a change in trait distributions or allele frequencies; it also includes the origin of the variation.... Natural selection only affects changes in the frequency of the variants once they appear; it cannot directly address the reasons for the existence of the variants.” --Endler, John A., Natural Selection in the Wild, Princeton University Press, New Jersey, USA, 1986

Biblical Kind

21 So God created great sea creatures and every living thing that moves, with which the waters abounded, according to their kind, and every winged bird according to its kind. ...24 Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth the living creature according to its kind: cattle and creeping thing and beast of the earth, each according to its kind”; and it was so. 25 And God made the beast of the earth according to its kind, cattle according to its kind, and everything that creeps on the earth according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.
-Genesis 1

The bible says God created life to reproduce after its own kind. God created various separate distinct kinds [not species] of animals. So a wolf coyote and dog shared a common ancestor. Today we often use the term species for multiple animals within the same biblical kind. For example a camel and a llama can breed. A Lynx and a bobcat, yak and cow, lion and tiger, leopard and jaguar, dingo and dog, coyote and dog, gray wolf and coyote, killer whale and bottle nose dolphin, a zebra and donkey, a zebra and horse and on and on. Because these species all originated from the original biblical kind God created they can still interbreed. They have since diversified but all the potential for change was within the original kind God created.





Biblical Creation and Mutations






Mutations happen but all observation and experimentation shows they work against evolution. Mutations reduce information in an organism they do not build up. See http://creation.com/the-evolution-trains-a-comin It really is in my opinion the best argument for creation and the best refuter of evolution. Evolution needs to increase complexity over time through mutations, yet all observation shows the opposite. Take the example above of antibiotic resistance. Antibiotic-resistant H. pylori have a mutation that results in the loss of information to produce an enzyme. This enzyme normally converts an antibiotic to a poison, which causes death. But when the antibiotics are applied to the mutant H. pylori, these bacteria can live while the normal bacteria are killed. So by natural selection the ones that lost information survive and pass this trait along to their offspring. This process cannot exspalin the origin of the enzyme.

“Not even one mutation has been observed that adds a little information to the genome . This surly shows that there are not the millions upon millions of potential mutations the theory evolution demands.”
-L.spetner not by chance 1997

Some mutations are beneficial such as the above, or a insect on a island that has a mutation so it does not produce wings, know lives while the others that did not have the mutation die off, so know this insect with the new mutation lives and passes on its genes till the whole island is know mutated wingless insects. Yet this is the wrong kind of change for evolution [reduced destroying] yer constant with biblical creation.



Biblical Creation and Global Flood


If a worldwide flood occurred, what would we expect to see? Billions of dead plants and animals laid down rapidly by water fossilized all over the earth. What do we find? Billions of dead plants and animals laid down rapidly by water fossilized all over the earth. Rapid burial of billions of dead plants and animals over long distances is just what would be expected in a worldwide flood. It is universally accepted that sedimentary rock was laid down by moving water. so the material making up strata had to first been eroded from one place and transported by water and deposited in another. This is exactly what you would aspect in a global flood. In the17th and 18th century it was generally accepted a universal flood produced the worlds rock layers and fossils. flood conditions are perfect for for forming fossils. No one would argue that the entire earths surface has not been at some time underwater. Marine fossils are found throughout the whole geological column, showing that ocean waters were over continents throughout whole column formation. fossils must be buried fast to be preserved. compared to modern flash floods if there was a year long global flood the amount of sediment fits almost perfectly in gemological column. For light reading on the major evidences for a global flood see here

https://answersingenesis.org/the-flo...genesis-flood/

A great video on flood evidences
http://www.answersingenesis.org/Publ...,5631,229.aspx

Books on the global flood
http://www.answersingenesis.org/Publ...,6438,226.aspx
http://www.answersingenesis.org/Publ...,6211,229.aspx
https://answersingenesis.org/store/p.../global-flood/
https://usstore.creation.com/how-noa...aped-our-earth
http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/


Evolutionist fulfill a profacy of the bible by rejecting the global flood by claiming Unitarianism. The present is key to the past and slow gradual Unitarianism is how modern geologist often interpret the rock record, “all things continue as they were from the beginning.”

“knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, 4 and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” 5 For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, 6 by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water.”
- 2nd peter 3 3-7



Biblical Creation and the Age of the Earth

See op.