04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread

[Insaner]

[dyachei]

Saying "Zack went from null to probably town, but tinfoil fears are still a thing" is not the same as Cuth's "I dunno why you are all so diehard reading Zack as town" (both paraphrased)

it kind of is. And I'm talking about d1 reads specifically. You didn't have zack as probably town d1 that I saw (still have to full iso you) so it felt very similar to cuth's perspective. But you can't understand it at all?

[Cuthillius]

Cuth says he doesn't bus and that he hates it, but he busses literally every game I've played with him

Cue him saying it's just a coincidence. Mhm, sure it is

this

this is why i wouldn't do it this game

if you have any shred of doubt

it's because this specific thing right here has been going on for years and i'm tired of it

just so we're clear here

[GeneralHankerchief]

this

this is why i wouldn't do it this game

if you have any shred of doubt

it's because this specific thing right here has been going on for years and i'm tired of it

just so we're clear here

I think I might believe this?

[Cuthillius]

Why is this post being ignored. His read on Capage says it all.

yes, especially after i went around asking people "hey am i wrong does he do this as a villager" before he got super suspected and about to be lynched?

it's not like my read there was static by any means

[Cuthillius]

That makes that paragraph even more bizarre then

this was after i started liking monty better, like i said i was considering voting logic, didn't want to naked unvote because it's a waste of space

but i didn't really have anyone better to vote at that point

[ladd]

ehat specifically did you like more abiut monty?

[Cuthillius]

I think the POE spread doesn't evoke confidence. Too many nullish people, with overlap among the too many people laying low as the Big Names talk it up. Cuth's reaction to pressure today has been, how do you say, frozen? Here's what I expect for when I come back toward EOD: keep Cuth in the lead and if he's scum, there's going to be CFD activity. If not then it's more likely a case of "dead air, dead townie" and that's the point at which I will consider a yolo vote.

i just want to note, for the record, that "frozen" seems a really, really, tunnely way to look at my posts today

and maybe it's just because i've not had a ton of time to post in and so it feels like i've said a lot more than i have without that context

but i certainly don't think i've been inactive or like

giving up/deflating nearly like i would as a wolf in this situation even

pretty sure i've made, like, a pretty reasonable chunk of posts/words this phase

[Cuthillius]

ehat specifically did you like more abiut monty?

i saw the question before, will get to it in a moment

[Cuthillius]

logic, how do you feel about cuth knowing that he's like...the only other person that really questioned the consensus read on zack?

i'm sorry, what? i don't remember ever doing this

i've read zack solidly town all game?

[Fable]

@Fable
Were I to ISO you, would I find anything, my friend?

Memes

[dyachei]

i'm sorry, what? i don't remember ever doing this

i've read zack solidly town all game?

i quoted it earlier today

[Egix]

I think I might believe this?

I do too, kinda.

So I presume those "selfish reasons" were just ~raisins~ huh?

[Fable]

Everyone sees logic just trying to fill space right?

[Cuthillius]

gh's wall shortly beforehand

not like a top wolf read but



monty was trending up because i didn't find anything objectionable about his posts after the initial one i took issue with and the homesiters were all saying he was rather villagery

@ladd here's the post

i'd voted him/had suspicions initially basically entirely because of how he talked about me early on that i didn't like (game-wise, wasn't offended or anything lol)

but then his other posts were fine and didn't make that suspicion greater and people much more used to him were overwhelmingly calling him v-- you'll notice that i mentioned my opinion of him changing shortly after gh posted his reads

[Cuthillius]

i quoted it earlier today

um

well i just looked through all of your posts today and i can't find any mention of my read on him apart from me calling him a villager

so i don't know where that's coming from, i'd appreciate you requoting perhaps?

but that confirms my perception that logic taking that and running with it is super sketch

like he was just all oh yeah cuth totally was suspicious of zack that's pretty bad

[Insaner]

I'm vt btw

[Cuthillius]

logic, how do you feel about cuth knowing that he's like...the only other person that really questioned the consensus read on zack?

I feel like everyone should question Zack's towniness because he is a player I would fear the crap out of in a lategame scenario.
However, Cuth's suspicion feels weird. I am having trouble seeing his perspective on Zack as from a town POV.

but...you have the same perspective, don't you?

Saying "Zack went from null to probably town, but tinfoil fears are still a thing" is not the same as Cuth's "I dunno why you are all so diehard reading Zack as town" (both paraphrased)

this interaction is absolutely bizarre
@Logic what was going through your head

did you also read one of my posts specifically as saying that or are you just taking dya's word for it

could you please quote the post where i said anything remotely along the lines of "I dunno why you are all so diehard reading Zack as town"

[Cuthillius]

My scumgame has not evolved much since chess in 2017. I have a single scum game under my belt where I survived past N3 (of, 9ish?) and most of those I was the D1 or D2 lynch. My only real talent as scum is not spewing my teammates.

for the record, at a quick glance over his posts logic didn't mention either of the wolves d1

he spent most of the day saying ladd was a wolf and then walked it back at the start of today

[dyachei]

um

well i just looked through all of your posts today and i can't find any mention of my read on him apart from me calling him a villager

so i don't know where that's coming from, i'd appreciate you requoting perhaps?

but that confirms my perception that logic taking that and running with it is super sketch

like he was just all oh yeah cuth totally was suspicious of zack that's pretty bad

I think I misread your stuff on insaner as being for zack

I just reread your ISO and that's what makes the most sense

[Logic]

Everyone sees logic just trying to fill space right?

Compare that with your "memes" and tell me what you think is actually better.

[Fable]

Compare that with your "memes" and tell me what you think is actually better.

My memes obv

[Csargo]

Zack dunked on Barto within the first, like, 20 minutes of the game. That's not how he treats partners.

Nobody should even bother with him until lylo.

[Cuthillius]

vote: Logic

let me summarize your game as i see it

you don't talk about the wolves at all

you strongly v-read insaner, the consensus read who's all over the place, and you cast doubt on zack, the one who's likely to actually get things done in this crowd

originally this is just because you don't find anything particularly ai about his posts

when justifying this suspicion on d2, you say it's because you'd be suspicious in a late-game scenario, but it's d2 and you've been doing it out of the gate

you push ladd, rescind once no longer viable

you find people suspicious for pushes without weight behind them and then make a few yourself

thoughts?

[Logic]

@Cuthillius

Hmm. It does seem other than in the early random posting stage you never called zack anything but villagery. I seem to remember it differently, and I don't know why.

My memes obv

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[Fable]

@Cuthillius

Hmm. It does seem other than in the early random posting stage you never called zack anything but villagery. I seem to remember it differently, and I don't know why.


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I mean not doing stuff is better than pretending to do stuff

[Logic]

vote: Logic

let me summarize your game as i see it

you don't talk about the wolves at all

you strongly v-read insaner, the consensus read who's all over the place, and you cast doubt on zack, the one who's likely to actually get things done in this crowd

originally this is just because you don't find anything particularly ai about his posts

when justifying this suspicion on d2, you say it's because you'd be suspicious in a late-game scenario, but it's d2 and you've been doing it out of the gate

you push ladd, rescind once no longer viable

you find people suspicious for pushes without weight behind them and then make a few yourself

thoughts?

I have made a single push for the only person I have suspected. I'm still formulating a few worlds in my mind. Right now I'm suspecting Fable most, but it's the dissonance of their pushes that make me think there's something off there.

You and scoobs are probably the only ones that have any idea what good scum Logic looks like, and that's partially because the Playground werewolf scene doesn't take itself too seriously and that my tells are not seen for tells. I can also definitively say that my scum signs are not present in the game, and that you should know by now.

But, vote me if you think that's where you need to go. You're wrong.

[Logic]

I mean not doing stuff is better than pretending to do stuff

I disagree on the "Pretending"
Vote: Fable

[Fable]

I disagree on the "Pretending"
Vote: Fable

Cool talk about how I memed all day then bused last minute for no reason.

[Cuthillius]

i'll be honest, i'm not considering fable right now because and only because he was way up at the top of gh's readslist

which players in the game are you decidedly not considering?